Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 8:51AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Once you are familiar with the issues from both sides, please post a message that identifies you by name, school, grade and which position you will take - developer (pro-dam) or conservationist (questions dam's location).............. Then you can begin posting your answers to the following questions...... feel free to challenge the other side !

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
1. Why does San Francisco need more water (1900-1908)?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
2. Does San Francisco have other options for water ? What are they ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
3. Should cities be built where water is or should water be brought to the cities ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
4. With San Francisco's history of tragic fires, and the recent devastation of the 1906 earthquake and fire, is water also a safety issue?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
5. Is nature present to serve man even at its own destruction ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
6. Does a city have the right to put the needs of its people above the needs of the wilderness ( plants, animals, mountains and rivers ) ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
7. Is the savings of money to bring people needed water worth the destruction of irreplaceable natural beauty ? Or is there another solution that can do less damage to the natural environment AND provide needed water ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
8. If our national parks are not safe from major construction projects, how will they be kept intact for future generations as was the intention with their founding ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
9. Since 1908, there have been several other types of water development projects in the State of California - which type of water projects do NOT rob resources from the Backcountry ? Dams, Canals and Aqueducts ? Desalinization ? Water conservation ?

Camp Internet Headquarters: . . . . Tue, May 15, 9:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
10. Where does the water at your house come from ?

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:44AM PST (-0800 GMT)
1. They needed the water for water mining.

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
2.Yes.Use the ocean water.

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
3.Cities should not be builtby water.

Renea & Katie-Miramonte: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
1. San Francisco doesn't need more water. They had other alternatives.

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
2. San Francisco is right by an ocean, so they shoudn't have needed more water from Yosemite.

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:57AM PST (-0800 GMT)
4.Yes.The water can put out the fire.

Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:58AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Hello Miramonte - welcome to the Hetch Hetchy water wars ... san francisco had a HUGE HUGE earthquake in 1906 that caused massive fires that burnt the city down. After that catastrophe, they felt a very STRONG need for a bigger water source .....

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:58AM PST (-0800 GMT)
3. Cities should be built where there is a lasting water supply.

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:59AM PST (-0800 GMT)
4. Yes, however they couldv'e used the ocean's water.

emilyhamilton/miramonte: . . . . Tue, May 15, 12:59AM PST (-0800 GMT)
1. They need more water because of Hydrolic mining.

Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:00PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Tommy and Rena - even though SF is by the ocean - people can not DRINK sea water can they ? The developers wanted water not only for emergencies like fires - but also to allow the City to rebuild and GROW GROW GROW........... If people can not drink sea water right out of the ocean - is there any other way they can drink it ???? If so, HOW ? (hint - Catalina Island and Santa Barbara are two places that solved this problem)

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:03PM PST (-0800 GMT)
5. Yes nature serves mankind, but needs to be preserved for wildlife for example:clean water, food, and shelter.

breanna/sarah:)miramonte: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:03PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Q1)They needed more water so that they could hydrolic mining.

Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:04PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Emily and crew - there was no mining IN San Francisco, but you are right that hydraulic mining was a HUGE reason behind other water wars that destroyed large areas of the pristine California backcountry --- and -- the silt the water tore loose also swept dpwnstream and destroyed farms in the Central Valley near where you live today. The farmers and the miners had a HUGE legal battle to try to protect the farm lands ... but the famrers lost in court because the judges were friends of the money-rich miners.

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:04PM PST (-0800 GMT)
5.Nature is present to serve us.For example,houses are built from tree wood.

ross/patrick/miramonte/4 dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:04PM PST (-0800 GMT)
#1.Becauswe the population of San Francisco is growing

CorinaMontano/JonathanConteras/MIRAMONTE Elm.: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:04PM PST (-0800 GMT)
1. Because of the earthquakes,San Fransico will need the water to put out the fire.

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:04PM PST (-0800 GMT)
6. A city should care about it's people, but animals and plants need care too. They could become extinct.

emilyhamilton/miramonte: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:05PM PST (-0800 GMT)
2. Yes. From canals,and the ocean. ( it is so near why not!)

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:07PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Marcy, San Francisco could use desaltification plants to filter out the salt.

ross/patrick/miramonte/4 dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:09PM PST (-0800 GMT)
#2.NO! You cannot drink salt water!

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:11PM PST (-0800 GMT)
7. The solution could be less destructive towards nature. They could've used ocean water and desaltification plants

CorinaMontano/JonathanConteras/MIRAMONTE Elm.: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:12PM PST (-0800 GMT)
2. To drink it and to put out fires

CorinaMontano/JonathanConteras/MIRAMONTE Elm.: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:12PM PST (-0800 GMT)
2. To drink it and to put out fires

emilyhamilton/miramonte: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:12PM PST (-0800 GMT)
3. near. in the ancient times they were always near water. I don't think it will flood!

ross/patrick/miramonte/4 dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:12PM PST (-0800 GMT)
#3.no, you should not limit where cities are built

Tommy/Miramonte/for dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:13PM PST (-0800 GMT)
6.Yes because if you were to put nature first, then people would start dieing. Nature may help us ,but If we were dead how could we admire nature.

devonannederr0:}/miramonte/against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:13PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Q7:

Renea & Katie-Miramonte-against dam: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:14PM PST (-0800 GMT)
8. The Hetch-Hetchy defeated the purpose of the protection of Yosemite National Park.

CorinaMontano/JonathanConteras/MIRAMONTE Elm.: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:16PM PST (-0800 GMT)
3. The water shold be brought to the city.

Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Tue, May 15, 1:33PM PST (-0800 GMT)
Rena and Katie - you are on the nose about desalinization being a possible choice today - but - that was not available in the early 1900s.

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