Mr. Bonilla @ San Miguel: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:29AM PST (-0800 GMT)I've visited the presidio at sonoma california and its a one building site. How big is this presidio?
...We will have a guest from El Presidio State Park and the Santa Barbara Trust for Historic Preservation as our Trail Guide, Mary Louise Days.......... Camp Internet has a good selection of Alta California period learning units available for the Channel Islands region studies at button and for the California Backcountry studies at button ........ This period of time is defined as being before American State hood, during the first decades of settlement after the missions were built, and encompassed both Spanish and Mexican rule. You can visit El Presidio State Park here button
Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 8:42AM PST (-0800 GMT)
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Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Dr. Jackman, from the Trust once told us in a student chat that the most asked for item delivered by ship to the Presidio was - CHOCOLATE !! What other goods had to be brought into California, and what goods were traded out ?
Morgana, Paradise Homeschool: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How many children lived in Santa Barbara before it became a state and what was the most common birthday game? Did they use pinatas?
Morgana, Paradise Homeschool: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:05AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What did girls wear in Alta California? And what colors?
prctr@sbthp.org: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:07AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Items brought in included cloth to make clothes, blankets, kettles, tools, thread, needles, bits and spurs, paper, hats, shawls, razors, combs, etc. We traded out otter skins and , later, cattle hides and tallow.
Dave, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:11AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Were they aware they were wiping out the otter population?
L. Walker Palm View: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:11AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What is a presidio?
Laura L.O.E.: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:13AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How long did it take to get from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara, and santa BArbara to Monterey? Was it by horse back or wagons? Is it true they had to dismantle a wagon to get it through Gaviota pass?
Larry, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:15AM PST (-0800 GMT)
In the Zorro section in Cmap they talk about a robber in the hills north of Solvang who was something like Zorro - from a wealthy family... why did he rob people? ..........."North of Solvang, California, there lived a son of a Mexican ranchero who supposedly took to highway robbery in the narrow pass between Solvang and Santa Maria. This man has also sometimes been suggested as the historical model for Zorro. Local historian Walt Tompkins offers a reference to this historical character from the early 1800s. "
prctr@sbthp.org: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:21AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Yes, they used pinatas for birthday games. There were also ball games and music. Dancing was popular for family parties. I just counted the childred listed in the 1837 census, and it appears that there were 299 children in Santa Barbara. As you know, California became a state in 1850. Girls wore simple long skirts with blouses. They also wore ribbons. Colors included blue, off-white, and other plain colors, but the people also bought printed calico cloth. Scarlet stockings were ordered, and also blue or white.
Sarah, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:23AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Did they have doctors? Were there midwives?
Peter, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:23AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What did Henry R Dana do when he visited santa Barbara?
Regina, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:24AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How did the soldiers at the presidio treat the Chumash?
Anthony Zuniga: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:24AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What mission is furthest to the North and furthest to the South?
Carlos, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:25AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What about priates? we saw on camp the story about Bouchard. did pirates attack people on land ?
Carl, Camp Trainer: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:25AM PST (-0800 GMT)
We are joining this chat with teachers from LAUSD in training at Soto Street. We will pose some questions about the mission period of California history.
Mr. Coons at Menlo: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:25AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any missions north of Fan Francisco?
Caarmela Gomes: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:26AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Which is the best maintained and oldest mission in the chain.
Mrs. Markos, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:26AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Do you think Frnacis Drake came to the Goelta Slough? we read about the 3 canons and an anchor that were found there ...
Mr. Bonilla @ San Miguel: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:29AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I've visited the presidio at sonoma california and its a one building site. How big is this presidio?
Ms. Gomez @San Miguel School: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Does the presido offer field trips for students? If so, can it be visited along with the Santa Barbara Mission?
Ms. Carmela Gomes Nightingalr MS LAUSD: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How early were the Spanish influential in the Arroyo Seco area Los Angeles in which Nightingale MS is located?
L.Walker: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Zulaima and Tanya Palm View School.
1.Where is the presidio located.
Mrs. Cordes: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:31AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I am very interested in the Spanish land grants that took place in Calif. Mostly I would like to know if any of the coastal land today is still owned by families who were once part of the grants.
David, Nightingale Middle School: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:33AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How many Chumash people are alive today? What role did the missions play in the destruction of the Chumash culture?
Mrs. Lee: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:33AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Good question Mrs. Cordes.....please rush the answer.
prctr@sbthp.org: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Dave, the otter hunters probably were not aware that they were wiping out the otters. They might not have cared, especially the American hunters who arrived late in the Spanish period. Competition might have been important.
L. Walker, a presidio as used in Spanish Colonial times was usually a fortress made of wood or adobe (as ours was) or a stone mixture. It was meant for defending the military and civilian settlements from foreign incursions or from Indians. There usually was not a town nearby. That came later, after the need for forts was over. There were Spanish presidios in Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California, etc.
Laura, it took about three days under good conditions, to ride from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara. It took about three days by ship to Monterey from S.B., but about a week by horseback. Using a cart and horse/mule was slower. I believe Refugio Pass was used more than Gaviota Pass, and they were both rough going. There are stories of later groups having to dismantle wagons.
Larry, Walker Tompkins in his book "California's Wonderful Corner", chapter 26, tells about bandits such as Joaquin Murrietta (probably a combination of several bandits), Jack Powers, and Solomon Pico. You can read about Jack Powers in other books as well, including chapter 26 of the Tompkins book "Santa Barbara History Makers."
L.Walker: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:37AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Zulaima and Tanya Palm View School.
1.Where is the presidio located.
: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:40AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Ms. G. Jones at Nightingale- Are there any virtual web sites that show the various missions that we can take students to? Since we may not be able to visit an actual site, this would be great.
Mrs. Markos, San Simon: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:45AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What can you tell us about the terrible earthquake in 1812 that scared the Chumash off santa Rosa Island? What else did it damage?
Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Camp Interent has mission resources in its Islands track - and - we also refer classrooms to this site button that is very beaitifully rendered and mixes histroy and music nicely.
Marcy, Camp Internet: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 10:52AM PST (-0800 GMT)
the Mission in the Los Angeles area most closely related to the Channel Islands track is Mission San Gabriel, after which the Gabrielinos were names. .....For the Gardens track, Mission Heritage Plants is a really interesting - and new - area of study researchers are working on - re growing whet used to grow in Alta California gardens button
Mrs. Lee: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 11:07AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Good question Mrs. Cordes.....please rush the answer.
Mrs. Cordes: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 11:08AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I am very interested in the Spanish land grants that took place in Calif. Mostly I would like to know if any of the coastal land today is still owned by families who were once part of the grants.
prctr@sbthp.org: . . . . Fri, Feb 1, 11:11AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Ms. Gomez, Yes you can arrange to take student tours of El Presidio de Santa Barbara State Historic Park. Telephone (805) 965-0093. To take tours of Mission Santa Barbara you must call Mrs. Foss at the mission, 682-4713.
Carmela, The settlement at Los Angeles was founded in 1781, although San Gabriel Mission was earlier (1771), and the Spanish probably explored into the Arroyo Seco area. Perhaps history books on the mission or about L.A. and Pasadena would have some stories about the arroyo.
L. Walker, the Santa Barbara Presidio is located downtown in Santa Barbara at 123 E. Canon Perdido Street, between Anacapa and Santa Barbara Street. You can't miss it.
Mrs. Cordes, Descendants of the Dibblee/de la Guera family still own the San Julian Rancho in Santa Barbara County just above Gaviota. I doubt that there are any remaining Spanish ownerships in Ventura County or San Luis Obispo County, but it is possible. You may wish to read "Spanish and Mexican Land Grants in California" by Rose Avina.
David, There are thousands of people of Chumash descent alive today, but no full-blooded Chumash. The missions did not wish to destroy the California Indians, but to teach them European ways and religion, as well as teaching them about agriculture, wine-making, etc. This they did. Unfortunately, diseases made many people sick. Indians as well as Mexican/Europeans living here died.
Ms Jones, the California Mission Studies Assn. has a very good website with several links. Another one we have read about is library.thinkquest.org/3615. You can search under California Missions and find a great deal.
Mrs. Markos, the December, 1812 earthquake was part of a series of terrible quakes that damaged large parts of the future United States, including the Midwest. It damaged Mission Santa Barbara and the Santa Barbara Presidio. It also badly damaged Mission La Purisima and caused its location to be moved. It damaged seven other missions as well. The great stone church at San Juan Capistrano fell down and remains in ruins.