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Camp Internet Rock Art Explorers: . . . . Mon, Nov 17, 5:53PM PST (-0800 GMT)
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Camp Internet Rock Art Explorers: . . . . Mon, Nov 17, 5:57PM PST (-0800 GMT)
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Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:46AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How long has Rock Art been around?

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:46AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The earliest rock art sites date to approximately 30,000 years ago in France. The oldest traces of painting on rocks dates to approximately 100,000 years ago in southern Africa.

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How did the people make the colors they used foor Rock Art?

Mr. Hyder Answers Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Rock art pigments are derived mostly from natural materials. Red ochre is an iron oxide the runs from yellow to a deep red. White may be made from shells, gypsum, or clay deposits. Black is typically charcoal. Other minerals produce blues and some plant material produces blues and blacks.

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Who invented Rock Art?

Mr. Hyder answers Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:48AM PST (-0800 GMT)
We do not know when people first painted on rocks, but it is most likely a product of modern human behavior. Probably the best answer is that "we" invented rock art.

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:48AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Where are the oldest cave paintings located?

Mr. Hyder answers Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:49AM PST (-0800 GMT)
We have early dates from southern Africa, France, Australia, India, and South America. Rock art seems to appear with the appearance of modern humans.

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:49AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What is the difference between a pictograph and a pictoglyph?

Mr. Hyder answers Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
A pictograph is a painting added to rock. A petroglyph is a removal of rock to produce a design.

Camp Internet Rock Art Explorers: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:51AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Pictograph in Baja California

Camp Internet Rock Art Explorers: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:53AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Petroglyph in Eastern Sierra Nevada - Coso Range

Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:53AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What is bas relief?

Mr. Hyder answers Elderberry Students: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Most petroglyphs involve removing rock from the area of the design so that it is visible (such as removing dark rock surface to expose the lighter interior rock. A bas relief involves removing rock from around the design so it stands out above the surrounding rock surface rather than being cut into the surface,

Antonio at Elderberry : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:55AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Why were petoglyphs made?

Mr. Hyder : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:55AM PST (-0800 GMT)
That is the question that intrigues archaeologists. We do not know why any one petroglyph was made except to say that it is something that humans do. In some cases we know that rock art was made to mark territory, to commemorate events, to honor ancestors, etc, but most rock art likely relates to the religious beliefs of the artists and their society.

Antonio at Elderberry : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What do the designs mean?

Mr. Hyder : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
There are very few cases where we know what the artist meant when they created their art. In some case we know that a design is a bear or snake or deer or even a bow and arrow, but the artist might have meant them to represent some other thought or belief.

Camp Internet Rock Art Explorers: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:58AM PST (-0800 GMT)

Daniel at Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:59AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What is the difference between a statue that you can move and a statue that you can not move?

Mr. Hyder : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 6:59AM PST (-0800 GMT)
A free standing statue is know as portable art (if small). It may not be found where it was created because it can be carried and traded. A fixed statue would be an example of bas-relief art and is necessarily located at the place it was created.

Daniel at Elderberry : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 7:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How can you tell Indian art work from cave art?

Mr. Hyder : . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 7:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
They are one and the same unless you are asking how to distinguish the art of one culture or time from the art of another culture or time. For the latter, we use a concept called style that assumes different people at different times produce art that is more consistent with others from the same people and time than that of other peoples and times. Styles are not always that distinct. For example, American coins have former presidents on their "heads" side and Canadian coins have the queen of England. These are two different styles of coins. A thousand years from now, people may not know the difference between the queen and a president and they might view the coins as being of one style, that of having the head of a person of the "heads" side.

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Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Hello from UC Santa Cruz. I'm here and look forward to your questions.

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Good Morning Campers - welcome to the rock art chat ... as you can see, we have plenty of information available above to review and we welcome new questions below .... be sure to include your name in the YOUR HANDLE BOX, and then post your question. If you want to get back to top of the room, enter a large number (ie 500) in the SCROLL BACK BOX, then click on CHAT button, and it will take you back up above to follow the links / see previous student's questions and the answers ......

Sarah, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:01AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Did children make rock art ?

Michelle, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are the animals in the images ones they hunted ? or are they magical ?

Eduardo, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I heard there are pictures of aliens or astronats - is that true?

Mrs. Villegas, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:03AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are the large figures in Peru - Nasca - considered rock art ? Or only images on walls or in caves?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:06AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I have seen painted hand prints that were made by children, but I do not know if children reguraly made rock art. My guess is that they did not on a regular basis.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:10AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Some rock art pictures clearly show animals being hunted, trapped, shot with arrows or darts, and some show what is probably dead animals. We cannot always tell if the pictures are meant to be records of a hunt or if they are meant to bring success in a hunt or if they represent something else besides hunting. One researcher said that paintings of animals show that they were good to think as well as eat. It is easy to believe that animals in rock art represent hunting magic, but people are more complicated than what they eat. Animals represent many things when used in art.

Ayami PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:10AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What are the most common colors ? Are they made from the same materials around the world ?

Ayami PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:11AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there families - brothers and sisters - ever shown in rock art ?

Morgana, PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:12AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Did girls ever do rock art ? Maybe in ceremonies? Do they do rock art today ?

Morgana, PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:15AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Did the Moundbuildres do rock art? or the Mayans?

Leticia, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:16AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What makes the paintings last so many years?

Robert S, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:16AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How did they get the paint on the rock ? Was it easy?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:18AM PST (-0800 GMT)
It was popular many years ago to speculate that rock art represented aliens or astronauts. We are attracted to that idea because the images are not always familiar to us. If our culutre was not capable of space travel, we would not interpret these images as aliens. It is an attractive idea, but prehistoric people were painting images familiar to their own cultures and beliefs.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:19AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The Nasca and other ground figures fall into the things studied by archaeologists interested in rock art.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:22AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The most common color in rock art is red. Red pigment, an iron oxide, bons easily with the rock and erodes slowly. Because it is a mineral pigment, it does not fade in sunlight like dyes and other things we use to create colors. If minerals faded, there would be no color in the earth. That is why paintings last so long.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:24AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Yes, families are shown in rock art or we believe they are families. Sometimes, images are clearly male and female from the parts of the body shown and smaller figures are shown with larger figures. We assume these are families although they may be just a group of people. Where I work in the Southwest, hand prints of different sizes are painted next to house room. They appear to be the hand prints of the parents and children living in the house.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:27AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Yes, girls painted rock art. We cannot tell just by looking at the art who painted it, but in Southern California, we know that young girls painted rock art and the end of ceremonies celebrating their passage from girl to woman. We even know specific rocks that were painted by the girls. Using these images as a model, we assume that rocks with similar images were also painted by girls. Without this ethnographic information, we would have no way to really tell who painted them.

Mrs. Villegas, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:27AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Is it possible to protect rock art ? What is being done to help it last ?

Mrs. Villegas, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:29AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How were the nasca lines made ? And what are realistic ideas about how they could have been made on that scale?

Morgana, PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Thanks for explaining about girls and rock art - what about in Australia? Do girls or women do rock art there too ?

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
did only indians paint on walls

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:30AM PST (-0800 GMT)
We know that the Maya made rock art and there is rock art in the area of the Moundbuilders that appears to portray legends associated with the Moundbuilders and image found in other Moundbuilder art. There are not as many possible places to find rock art as in the west, so there are fewer sites. When people had no rocks, they made their art in other ways (like building effigy mounds).

michael: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:31AM PST (-0800 GMT)
who started rock art?

DANIEL: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:32AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How many cave painting are in the U.S.A

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:32AM PST (-0800 GMT)
how many indians still are living in the u.s.a.?

Mrs. Villegas, Valley Oak: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:33AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I recently read about the Chinese explorers who may have come to California before the Europeans. I also read about a Chinese junk in a Chumash rock art site. Might that mean the image was made before the first Europeans arrived ?

michael: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:33AM PST (-0800 GMT)
DO KIDS PAINT ROCKART

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:34AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Andrew, Michael and Daniel - what SCHOOL are you with ? Also, please be sure to keep your postings on ROCK ART specifically .. thanks

: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Who started rock art

michael: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How can i tell the difference between an old rockart painting from a new one

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
daniel there is more than you think

DANIEL: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
indians started rock art

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:36AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The best way to protect rock art is through education. That is one reason I do these chats. Most destruction of rock art comes through ignorance of its value and importance to the people whose culutres created the art. the national and state parks are working to find better ways to educate and monitor people visiting rock art sites. And groups like the American Rock Art Research Association are working with teachers throughout the country to help build education programs about rock art.

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:38AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Here is the link to the American Rock Art Reserach Association - check out the photography contest open to all ages ! button

: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:39AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Why do they make signals such as buffalo or horse

michael: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:40AM PST (-0800 GMT)
why do people do rockart on walls

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:40AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Females created rock art in Australia and there are a few mentions of their work in some books. Australian society has rules about males and females sharing knowledge. Since most archaeologists and anthropologists over the years have been male, not much was recorded about female ceremonial activities. That has changes with more female scientists, but there is still little published out of respect for the cultures who have shared their religious secrets.

Ayami PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:41AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What countries have you been to that have rock art?

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:42AM PST (-0800 GMT)
what type of indians paint rock art

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:43AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Creating rock art is something that humans do. In North America, the native peoples are who you call Indians. They made the rock art. Settlers from Europe made some rock art during the Civil War and at other times, but it was for different purposes that the native inhabitants. Rock art is made everywhere in the world where there are rocks and people. If your family is from Europe, uour ancestors made rock art. If your family is from Africa, they made rock art. If from China, Japan, or othe Asian countries, your ancestors made rock art as well.

Ayami PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:43AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any tribes today who still know what the anceint rock art was about?

jlhj: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:44AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How do they get paintings so high?

soso: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:45AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Is rockart popular?

michael: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:45AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any museums located in San Bernardino county that have rockart?

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:45AM PST (-0800 GMT)
are there a alot of countries that have rock art

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:46AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The Nasca lines are made by moving dark rocks to expose the lighter soil under the rocks. Creating the designs required engineering knowledge, but the Nasca people were just like us even if they did not have computers. Most of the figures are lines that point to mountains. The could stand at high spots and help ensure the lines ran straight. Ceremonies honoring the mountains are still performed in some villages, although they are now incorporated into Catholic ceremonies.

saysay: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:46AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Mr. Hyde how do you know so much about rock art

andrewthemaster: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:46AM PST (-0800 GMT)
indians help each other to get to a spot

Ayami PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any pictures of surfers or sailors in rock art ?

DANIEL/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:47AM PST (-0800 GMT)
are there cave paintings in china

saysay/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:49AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How did rock art start?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:49AM PST (-0800 GMT)
There are thousands of rock art sites in the USA and all over the world. I have seen many sites, but only a small number of those that exist. I have visited sites in California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado. Outside the US, I have visited sites in Mexico, Australia, Easter Island, and France.

Antonio/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Where is rockart most popular?

michael/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any museums located in San Bernardino County that have rockart?

Soso/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What state has the most drawings of rockart?

Morgana, PHS: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:50AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What types of ceremonial reasons do we know of that involved rock art ? You told me about girl's coming-of-age ... waht others are known of ?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:51AM PST (-0800 GMT)
The San Bernardino County Museum can help you learn more about rock art.

andrewthemaster/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:51AM PST (-0800 GMT)
how did indians get to high places to paint rock art

Soso/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How many drawings of rockart have you seen

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Most of the rock art in the US is in the west. Some will tell you California, Utah, Montana, Oregon, or Arizona has the most. That really doesn't matter because it is all important. There are some groups in California that still have knowledge of creating rock art, there are others in Oregon, Canada, and elsewhere. Some people in Australia and in Oceania still make rock art.

michael/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:54AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Where is Easter Island

andrewthemaster/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:55AM PST (-0800 GMT)
dots on animals are they a calendar ,target practice, or inventory

Soso/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Do the drawings represent spirits?

Antonio/ Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Has rockart increased or decreased since it was first made?

andrewthemaster/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
how did they carve paintings what tools?

Chris/ Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:56AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Sunset Gate students have just entered the chat. Question: Do you know of any rock art in the VEntura/Ojai/Oak View Areas?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:57AM PST (-0800 GMT)
There are only a few ceremonies that we know involved the creation of rock art. The rest we assume from where the art is located and what is shown. Without direct ethnographic information, we do not really know for sure. We know art was created as part of fertility ceremonies, for rain making, for healing, for vision quests, and probably for many other ceremonial reasons. As we move farther into the past where there are no written records, we have nothing that survives of ceremonies besides the rock art, so we are really guessing no matter how well constructed our ideas.

DANIEL/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:57AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Why are there more animals in rock art than people

Antonio/ Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:58AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What tools were used to make rockart

Soso/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 9:59AM PST (-0800 GMT)
why do most rockart pictures have animals?

michael/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
When did people usually create rockart. did they do it to release stress

saysay/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:00AM PST (-0800 GMT)
WHAT IS THE BIGGEST PICTOGLYPH ANS WHERE IS IT?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:01AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I'm trying keep up and have a list of your questions. I'll do my best to get to them all. We know that rock art was made before the Spanish came to California. I do not know that the Chinese made rock art before the Spanish came. I know there is evidence for Chinese junks visiting California and it is possible that they did so. I have not seen any rock art myself that i would say in indeed a Chinese junk. There is a lot of rock art in China and the first book to mention rock art was published in China over 1,000 years ago. They were already speculating about what older rock art might mean. We are still unable to answer that question.

DANIEL/elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:01AM PST (-0800 GMT)
is there any symbol for a war

Soso/Elderberry: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:01AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What is your favorite drawing that you have seen?

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:01AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Welcome SUNSET SCHOOL! - interesting question about Ojai / Ventura rock art...

Chris/ Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:02AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What are archeologists doing to preserve these cave art sites throughout California or the South west. Is it a felony to destroy cave art?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
There are sailors in rock art on Easter Island, Hawaii, and Australia. There are probably sailors elsewhere, but I have not seen articles about them. There are pictures of kite fliers in Hawaii and there are pictures that might be surfers. Sometimes you have to use your imagination and wonder about what you might be seeing. Rock art is as important for what we think about it today as it was for the people who originally made it.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:04AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Easter Island is in the South Pacific. The most isolated island with living people on the planet.

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:07AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Rock art is sometimes found in very high places. I speculate that the artists wanted it to be seen from a long distance. In some cases you can still climb to where the art is located (not a good idea unless you know how to climb mountains). In some cases the ledges that reached the site are gone. In some cases, sand dunes or even house structures used to rest against the wall and allowed people to reach the height safely. In Baja California, the artists painted with long poles to create very large paintings, high on cave walls.

Mrs. Archer/ Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:10AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I saw some rock art in New Mexico near Silver City. Quite interesting, but I forgot which native tribers were responsible for them. Any ideas?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:10AM PST (-0800 GMT)
There is rock art in the Ventura/Ojai area. There is a Chumash center in the Thousand Oaks area with a rock art site. They take visitors to see the site several times a month. I'm sorry, but the name is escaping me right now.

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:14AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Here is one link to a site in Thousand Oaks with a Chumash program ... we have taken teachers / students out there but have not yet seen their rock art ... its a hike in and was too much poison oak the time I went out there ... button

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:14AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Rock art is very popular all around the world and becomes more popular as people learn more about it. Unfortunately, visiting sites creates pressures that lead to the destruction of the art and very few people still create rock art. Today, people create their art on canvases, in books, in scultptures, etc. Many countries now have laws to protect the art. In our country, people have been sent to jail for damaging art, they have been made to pay to repair the damage they have done, and they have been fined as a punishment.

SPEEDSMART/SUNSET SCHOOL: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:16AM PST (-0800 GMT)
WHAT WERE THE MOST POPULAR TRIBES TO DO ROCK ART?

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:18AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Some of your questions have touched on meaning we know or think we know about rock art that I have not yet mentioned. Some researchers think that dots may represent calendars. In some cases, the dots run inrows and match moon counts. One site in the Southwest is called moon house for a painting of crescents leading up to a full circle and then back down to crescents again. The count matches the phases of the moon. In other sites, human figures carry shields and weapons. They are painted in areas where wars occurred and they seem to repesent the period of warfare. People created art about the things that worried them or were important to them. Periods of conflict and war likely saw an increase in rock art.

Brandon-Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:21AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Where can you see rock art in California?

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:21AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Every year, this spceial Rock Art event generates great new questions, really interesting answers, and opens our minds to new ways to understand rock art .... a BIG THANKS to Bill Hyder for being our guest. And a thank you to the schools who have participated with thoughtful questions ... great chance to STRETCH our MINDS! ........ This session will be viewable online here through the end of the year, and then in the permanent archive so come back an bring your friends to read through these challenging questions and answers.

Brandon-Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:22AM PST (-0800 GMT)
What do the indians who do rock art draw on the rocks?

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:22AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Bill - the room will be open until noon today if you find any questions still needing an answer and can add to the session ....

Bill Hyder: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:22AM PST (-0800 GMT)
It is hard to answer questions about the most popular tribes or the most favorite rock art sites. Different people like different things. My favorites tribes and sites are the Chumash because that is where I first learned about rock art. People that work elsewhere have different favorite tribes and sites. I am most interested in who we are as human beings and why we want to create art. Art began with the first moder humans and it probably means that we want to communicate our thoughts and beliefs with one another. Although prehistoric artists create art for different purposes from today's artists, their motivation likely comes from the same place in what makes us human. If you like to draw, why do you like to draw (or paint or create other art)?

Brandon-Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:25AM PST (-0800 GMT)
How do the people who do the art get the colors? ZWhat colors do they use?

HAley Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:26AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Are there any rock art paintings in Ojai?

Haley Sunset: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:29AM PST (-0800 GMT)
I have made paint out of rocks and paint brushes out of yucca plant before. Is that what the Indians used?

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:41AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Sunset students - thank you for sending in your questions today. Please go above and review other students Q&A and you will find some of the answers to your questions. If Mr. Hyder has finished, you can go to the top entries and follow the links to do the ROCK ART DIG adn QUIZ activities - many of which are based on Mr. Hyder's work with Camp Internet students.

Marcy Montgomery, Camp Internet Ed Devel Dir: . . . . Tue, Nov 18, 10:45AM PST (-0800 GMT)
Please also visit the Camp Internet ROCK ART GALLERIES at button and in the CAMPWIDE DIG room are activites good all month for Rock Art discoveries.

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