From jjwinkel at cox.net Mon Feb 1 13:20:55 2010 From: jjwinkel at cox.net (Cubby Winkel) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:20:55 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Santa Cruz Island Hike 2/2/10 Message-ID: <089b01caa384$772c8f60$6585ae20$@net> Unfortunately, due to a lingering illness I will be unable to conduct the ESCI hike tomorrow. Marty Flam will lead the hike in my absence. This leaves an opening in the Visitor Center. If anybody would like to cover the Visitor Center please contact me. Regards, Cubby Winkel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klez18 at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 1 15:10:40 2010 From: klez18 at sbcglobal.net (Marty Flam) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:10:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Sea Otter Suit Message-ID: <734446.54791.qm@web180104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jan/30/hungry-otters-stray-into-fishermens-territory/ "Otters, fishers compete for food...Boundaries fail to stop relocation."? Ventura County Star, p. A4, Sun, Jan 31, 2010. by Noaki Schwartz, AP? "The fishing industry has asked the court to intervene." ? Quotes of Lilliian Carswell, USFWS (defendant); Allison Ford The Otter Project (plaintiff) by EDC in USDC San Jose; ?Vern Goehring Ca Sea Urchin Commission; Jim Estes, prof. biology, UCSC; Harry Liquornik, diver. Is this article accurate? ? Marty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klez18 at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 1 16:16:27 2010 From: klez18 at sbcglobal.net (Marty Flam) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:16:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Otter sighting & litigation Message-ID: <807764.50045.qm@web180106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ? USGS scientist Brian Hatfield comments on Jan?sighting: ? http://otterproject.wordpress.com/category/otter-spottings/ ? Also I received a report: "Regarding the sea otter sighting, it may be rare in sighting logs, but I've? seen several in that general vicinity over the past several years...." 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Paul Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:10:40 -0800 From: klez18 at sbcglobal.net To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Subject: [CINC] Sea Otter Suit http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jan/30/hungry-otters-stray-into-fishermens-territory/ "Otters, fishers compete for food...Boundaries fail to stop relocation." Ventura County Star, p. A4, Sun, Jan 31, 2010. by Noaki Schwartz, AP "The fishing industry has asked the court to intervene." Quotes of Lilliian Carswell, USFWS (defendant); Allison Ford The Otter Project (plaintiff) by EDC in USDC San Jose; Vern Goehring Ca Sea Urchin Commission; Jim Estes, prof. biology, UCSC; Harry Liquornik, diver. Is this article accurate? Marty _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reholm at roadrunner.com Tue Feb 2 10:37:02 2010 From: reholm at roadrunner.com (robert e holm) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:37:02 -0800 Subject: [CINC] WW trip available, VTA Fri 2/5 @ 1pm Message-ID: <6A442C479B9F49D689440EF6170D393D@DELLREH> Hi Folks, I can't make my Island Packers VTA WW trip this Friday @ 1pm to 5pm due to a sudden change in plans. Can anybody take my place - goes to first reply. Thanks Bob Holm reholm at scualum.com 805-815-3216 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reholm at roadrunner.com Tue Feb 2 12:09:13 2010 From: reholm at roadrunner.com (robert e holm) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:09:13 -0800 Subject: [CINC] FW: WW trip available, VTA Fri 2/5 @ 1pm Message-ID: Hi Folks, Carol Celic will replace me on the WW trip. Thanks, Bob _____ From: robert e holm [mailto:reholm at roadrunner.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:37 AM To: 'channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org' Subject: WW trip available, VTA Fri 2/5 @ 1pm Hi Folks, I can't make my Island Packers VTA WW trip this Friday @ 1pm to 5pm due to a sudden change in plans. Can anybody take my place - goes to first reply. Thanks Bob Holm reholm at scualum.com 805-815-3216 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Wed Feb 3 09:39:36 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:39:36 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Whale Watch SUB Opening: CONDOR EXPRESS SAT 2/20 Message-ID: <4B69B4D8.2050101@noaa.gov> Cal Meuser and Peggy Meuser are looking for a sub for their _*two spots on the the CONDOR EXPRESS, Saturday, February 20th*_. There will also be one opening (Peggy is still scheduled on these two days) on the RANGER 85 on Sunday, February 14 and Monday, February 15. Please respond to Shauna and Clare if you would like to be added to the calendar for any of these trips. -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Wed Feb 3 10:51:04 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:51:04 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Channel Islands Park Foundation Seeking Board Members Message-ID: <4B69C598.9000707@noaa.gov> _*Channel Islands Park Foundation (CIPF) Seeking Board Members *_"The Channel Islands Park Foundation is dedicated to enhancing the awareness and understanding of the California Channel Islands. The foundation, in co-operation with the National Park Service, supports projects to develop research funding, educational opportunities, and to expand public awareness and participation." Several positions have become available on the CIPF Board. They are seeking to recruit at least 5 new members The most important position they need to fill is Secretary for the board. They would welcome potential participants to join us at our next meeting on February 10th, 4:30pm at Park headquarters. You may also contact Carol Pilsbury, CIPF President, directly by phone or email if you have questions at 805-218-5087 or ccpills at gmail.co This will be an exciting year for CIPF, and they are looking forward to new members that will help support the Park and its mission. -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From judyw88 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 3 18:15:05 2010 From: judyw88 at hotmail.com (judy w) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:15:05 -0800 Subject: [CINC] FW: Vanguard Whale Watch February 1, 2010 In-Reply-To: <596C550AC4C3C549BB4877B92DC696E044802C@APCDVORTEX> References: <596C550AC4C3C549BB4877B92DC696E044802C@APCDVORTEX> Message-ID: 2 grays rolling with the dolphins, literally! 29 passengers enjoyed a perfect winter day on the channel, glassy seas and very little wind. Folks from Maryland, Chicago and Iowa, glad to leave the snow at home, plus visitors from Oregon and San Francisco accompanied naturalists Judy Willens and Dean Benjamin and our crew Capt. Jason, Dee Dee and Thomas South of the shipping lanes we began to see common dolphins and sea lions scattered all the way ?round the back side of Anacapa, which is where we found 2 grays swimming slowly down the coast. After watching the whales for several dive cycles, a close group formed with 4 dolphins the 2 whales and a sea lion swimming together. The whales began doing slow barrel rolls! One whale than the other, 2-3 yards from the boat. We would see half a tail fluke sticking up, then a pec fin, a white belly just below the surface, another pec and a blow. The dolphins and sea lion were quietly arching/swimming along. Very relaxing, no splashing, just cruising, and it seemed they were totally oblivious to the boat. Alas, time came to break away and sail for home. More commons in small groups all the way to Channel Islands harbor. Not a big day for birds except the usual suspects at AI; pelicans, gulls, cormorants, scooters and terns. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Thu Feb 4 10:04:06 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:04:06 -0800 Subject: [CINC] [Fwd: Fw: Newsweek: An Unquiet Nation] Message-ID: <4B6B0C16.6040600@noaa.gov> -- from Derek.... http://www.newsweek.com/id/232668 Newsweek Thursday, January 28, 2010 An Unquiet Nation Audio ecologist Gordon Hempton talks about America's vanishing quiet spaces, and how our lives can be helped by listening to the silence. By Julia Baird "There are no words that can tell the hidden spirit of the wilderness, that can reveal its mystery, its melancholy, and its charm." ?Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 "The day will come when man will have to fight noise as inexorably as cholera and the plague." ?Nobel Prize?winning bacteriologist Robert Koch, 1905 Silence is something you assume you will always be able to find if you need it. All you have to do is drive far enough in the right direction, trek through quiet fields or woods, or dive into the sea's belly. For true silence is not noiselessness. As audio ecologist Gordon Hempton defines it, silence is "the complete absence of all audible mechanical vibrations, leaving only the sounds of nature at her most natural. Silence is the presence of everything, undisturbed." And silence, Hempton believes, is rapidly disappearing, even in the most remote places. He says there are fewer than a dozen places of silence?areas "where natural silence reigns over many square miles"?remaining in America, and none in Europe. In his book, One Square Inch of Silence: One Man's Search for Natural Silence in a Noisy World, written with John Grossman, Hempton argues that silence?a precious, underrated commodity?is facing extinction. Over the past three decades Hempton has circled the earth three times, recording sound on every continent except Antarctica: butterfly wings fluttering, coyotes singing, snow melting, waterfalls crashing, traffic clanging, birds singing. His work has been used in film soundtracks, videogames, and museums. He has also trekked through both remote and urban landscapes, measuring decibels and rude interruptions to the noises of nature. In 1983 he found 21 places in Washington state with noise-free intervals of 15 minutes or more. By 2007 there were three. (One of them is Olympic National Park, which he is trying to save, and he will not reveal the names of the others, arguing that they are protected by their anonymity.) Whom can we blame? People, and planes. Hempton claims that, during daytime, the average noise-free interval in wilderness areas has shrunk to less than five minutes. Think of the snowmobiles roaring through Yellowstone, helicopters flying over Hawaii volcanoes, and air tours over the Grand Canyon. It is air traffic that Hempton seems to resent the most: in his book, he travels across the United States in a 1964 VW bus, recording sound as he goes, from Washington state to Washington, D.C., where he meets with politicians and officials to press his case for the preservation of natural silence. I spoke to Hempton about his work, his mission, and whether he is just a cranky leaf-blower-hating hippie. Why should we care about silence? It has become an increasingly rare experience to be in nature as our distant ancestors were. Even in our national parks today, despite laws to protect them, you are much more likely to be hearing noise pollution, particularly overhead aircraft, than you are to be hearing only the native sounds of the land. Yet to be in a naturally silent place is as essential today as it was to our distant ancestors. Besides spending time away from the damaging noise impacts present at our workplace, neighborhoods, and homes, we are given the opportunity not only to heal but discover something incredible?the presence of life, interwoven! Do you know what it sounds like to listen for 20 miles in every direction? That is more than 1,000 square miles. When I listen to a naturally silent place and hear nature at its most natural, it is no longer merely sound; it is music. And like all music, good or bad, it affects us deeply. Have you always been interested in silence? Were you a child with acutely sensitive hearing? As a young child, I was very close to the natural environment. For my first four years, we lived in Hawaii and all my friends could fit in my pockets?they were bugs. My brother, sister, and I ran wild. We moved back to the mainland eventually, but I clearly remember sliding to the bottom of a swimming pool and loving it. It was such an unusual silence, it was like I was suspended in time as I was holding my breath. At college I majored in botany, and I was outdoors in vegetation all the time. But I did not really start thinking of silence until I was a graduate student in plant pathology, when I was driving from Seattle to Madison, Wis., and decided to sleep in a cornfield for the night. I didn't want to pay for a hotel. As I lay there I heard crickets, and rolling thunder in the background, which captivated me. The thunderstorm came, and I truly listened. The storm passed on, and as I lay there, drenched, the only thought in my mind was, how could I be 27 years old and never have truly listened before? I then took my microphone and tape recorder and went everywhere, obsessively listening?freight trains, hobos?it was a flood of sensation. I realized how we need to hear to survive?in evolution, earlids never developed, but eyelids did. And to those who know that true listening is worship, silence is one of nature's most transformative sermons. I am filled with gratitude to have heard it. Max Ehrmann was right-on when he wrote: "Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence." Could too much silence make you mad? Yes, too much silence will drive you mad in no time at all if you are talking about spending time alone in an anechoic chamber. That fact is well established. But in nature, experiencing too much natural silence will not drive you mad?in fact, it might make you sane. Recent studies have shown that nature experience can be as effective as medication in the treatment of autism, for example. What can we do to save natural silence? First, go and experience it. Second, contact members of Congress and tell them to support your right to quiet?specifically, that the FAA needs to route aircraft around our most pristine national parks unless it is a rescue operation or other reasons to preserve life. The Organic Act of 1916 created the National Park Service to manage our national parks to remain "unimpaired" for present and future generations. Yet while natural quiet is listed as a protected natural resource, 90,000 air tours flew over Grand Canyon National Park in 2009, and another 90,000 air tours will fly again in 2010! What has been the response to this campaign to reroute aircraft, which you outline in your book? Airline response has been good but limited. Alaska, American, and Hawaiian Airlines have all volunteered not to fly over Olympic National Park for some flights but not all. The catch is that the FAA has placed four jetways directly over Olympic park: three that crisscross the heart of the park and one that follows the Olympic National Seashore. These jetways are like interstates in the sky, but unlike the interstates that we drive on, there is no pavement to remove or expensive relocation construction cost. These jetways should be moved to protect Olympic park. This area is currently the least polluted by noise when compared to any of the other approximately 390 units managed by the National Park Service. Even more significantly, Olympic park has the greatest diversity of natural soundscapes: glacier-capped peaks, the best example of temperate rainforests in the Western Hemisphere, and the longest uninterrupted stretch of wilderness seashore in the Lower 48. How do we find silence? The way to find silence is to go to onesquareinch.org and get directions. The way to begin to find the other 11 places in the U.S. is to look at a NASA view of the United States at night. Light pollution is the evil cousin of noise pollution. Then find a black space that is not between major cities (hint: look to the faraway corners of this country and the northern boundary with Canada). What would you say to people who might dismiss you as a mad hippie? I'd laugh. I can totally see how they might think this just by reading quickly. But if they met me, visited my home, sit at the dinner table with my two kids?they would not think so. I am an American, like them, but one who has through unusual circumstances recognized something of unusual value. -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. From cfrench1366 at aol.com Thu Feb 4 10:34:16 2010 From: cfrench1366 at aol.com (Catherine French) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:34:16 -0500 Subject: [CINC] [Fwd: Fw: Newsweek: An Unquiet Nation In-Reply-To: <4B6B0C16.6040600@noaa.gov> References: <4B6B0C16.6040600@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <8CC73DFCA488DE9-63D8-D84@webmail-d043.sysops.aol.com> Thanks, Derek for bringing this great thought provoking item to our attention. Not only is silence hard to find terrestrially, something that effects us directly, but our sea mammal friends cannot easily escape the noise we have added to their world. One of the things about overnight island trips, is the great opportunity to experience true silence, it is a wonder. If you have ever been outside when all the electricity is off, like following an earthquake and the grid is shut down or when a major transformer has blown, one can actually hear and feel the silence. Until that happens, it is hard to imagine all the electrical noise to which we have become inured. True silence is remarkable. Another reason to protect the islands and the sanctuary. Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Shauna Bingham To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 10:04 am Subject: [CINC] [Fwd: Fw: Newsweek: An Unquiet Nation] -- from Derek.... http://www.newsweek.com/id/232668 Newsweek Thursday, January 28, 2010 An Unquiet Nation Audio ecologist Gordon Hempton talks about America's vanishing quiet spaces, and how our lives can be helped by listening to the silence. By Julia Baird "There are no words that can tell the hidden spirit of the wilderness, that can reveal its mystery, its melancholy, and its charm." ?Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 "The day will come when man will have to fight noise as inexorably as cholera and the plague." ?Nobel Prize?winning bacteriologist Robert Koch, 1905 Silence is something you assume you will always be able to find if you need it. All you have to do is drive far enough in the right direction, trek through quiet fields or woods, or dive into the sea's belly. For true silence is not noiselessness. As audio ecologist Gordon Hempton defines it, silence is "the complete absence of all audible mechanical vibrations, leaving only the sounds of nature at her most natural. Silence is the presence of everything, undisturbed." And silence, Hempton believes, is rapidly disappearing, even in the most remote places. He says there are fewer than a dozen places of silence?areas "where natural silence reigns over many square miles"?remaining in America, and none in Europe. In his book, One Square Inch of Silence: One Man's Search for Natural Silence in a Noisy World, written with John Grossman, Hempton argues that silence?a precious, underrated commodity?is facing extinction. Over the past three decades Hempton has circled the earth three times, recording sound on every continent except Antarctica: butterfly wings fluttering, coyotes singing, snow melting, waterfalls crashing, traffic clanging, birds singing. His work has been used in film soundtracks, videogames, and museums. He has also trekked through both remote and urban landscapes, measuring decibels and rude interruptions to the noises of nature. In 1983 he found 21 places in Washington state with noise-free intervals of 15 minutes or more. By 2007 there were three. (One of them is Olympic National Park, which he is trying to save, and he will not reveal the names of the others, arguing that they are protected by their anonymity.) Whom can we blame? People, and planes. Hempton claims that, during daytime, the average noise-free interval in wilderness areas has shrunk to less than five minutes. Think of the snowmobiles roaring through Yellowstone, helicopters flying over Hawaii volcanoes, and air tours over the Grand Canyon. It is air traffic that Hempton seems to resent the most: in his book, he travels across the United States in a 1964 VW bus, recording sound as he goes, from Washington state to Washington, D.C., where he meets with politicians and officials to press his case for the preservation of natural silence. I spoke to Hempton about his work, his mission, and whether he is just a cranky leaf-blower-hating hippie. Why should we care about silence? It has become an increasingly rare experience to be in nature as our distant ancestors were. Even in our national parks today, despite laws to protect them, you are much more likely to be hearing noise pollution, particularly overhead aircraft, than you are to be hearing only the native sounds of the land. Yet to be in a naturally silent place is as essential today as it was to our distant ancestors. Besides spending time away from the damaging noise impacts present at our workplace, neighborhoods, and homes, we are given the opportunity not only to heal but discover something incredible?the presence of life, interwoven! Do you know what it sounds like to listen for 20 miles in every direction? That is more than 1,000 square miles. When I listen to a naturally silent place and hear nature at its most natural, it is no longer merely sound; it is music. And like all music, good or bad, it affects us deeply. Have you always been interested in silence? Were you a child with acutely sensitive hearing? As a young child, I was very close to the natural environment. For my first four years, we lived in Hawaii and all my friends could fit in my pockets?they were bugs. My brother, sister, and I ran wild. We moved back to the mainland eventually, but I clearly remember sliding to the bottom of a swimming pool and loving it. It was such an unusual silence, it was like I was suspended in time as I was holding my breath. At college I majored in botany, and I was outdoors in vegetation all the time. But I did not really start thinking of silence until I was a graduate student in plant pathology, when I was driving from Seattle to Madison, Wis., and decided to sleep in a cornfield for the night. I didn't want to pay for a hotel. As I lay there I heard crickets, and rolling thunder in the background, which captivated me. The thunderstorm came, and I truly listened. The storm passed on, and as I lay there, drenched, the only thought in my mind was, how could I be 27 years old and never have truly listened before? I then took my microphone and tape recorder and went everywhere, obsessively listening?freight trains, hobos?it was a flood of sensation. I realized how we need to hear to survive?in evolution, earlids never developed, but eyelids did. And to those who know that true listening is worship, silence is one of nature's most transformative sermons. I am filled with gratitude to have heard it. Max Ehrmann was right-on when he wrote: "Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence." Could too much silence make you mad? Yes, too much silence will drive you mad in no time at all if you are talking about spending time alone in an anechoic chamber. That fact is well established. But in nature, experiencing too much natural silence will not drive you mad?in fact, it might make you sane. Recent studies have shown that nature experience can be as effective as medication in the treatment of autism, for example. What can we do to save natural silence? First, go and experience it. Second, contact members of Congress and tell them to support your right to quiet?specifically, that the FAA needs to route aircraft around our most pristine national parks unless it is a rescue operation or other reasons to preserve life. The Organic Act of 1916 created the National Park Service to manage our national parks to remain "unimpaired" for present and future generations. Yet while natural quiet is listed as a protected natural resource, 90,000 air tours flew over Grand Canyon National Park in 2009, and another 90,000 air tours will fly again in 2010! What has been the response to this campaign to reroute aircraft, which you outline in your book? Airline response has been good but limited. Alaska, American, and Hawaiian Airlines have all volunteered not to fly over Olympic National Park for some flights but not all. The catch is that the FAA has placed four jetways directly over Olympic park: three that crisscross the heart of the park and one that follows the Olympic National Seashore. These jetways are like interstates in the sky, but unlike the interstates that we drive on, there is no pavement to remove or expensive relocation construction cost. These jetways should be moved to protect Olympic park. This area is currently the least polluted by noise when compared to any of the other approximately 390 units managed by the National Park Service. Even more significantly, Olympic park has the greatest diversity of natural soundscapes: glacier-capped peaks, the best example of temperate rainforests in the Western Hemisphere, and the longest uninterrupted stretch of wilderness seashore in the Lower 48. How do we find silence? The way to find silence is to go to onesquareinch.org and get directions. The way to begin to find the other 11 places in the U.S. is to look at a NASA view of the United States at night. Light pollution is the evil cousin of noise pollution. Then find a black space that is not between major cities (hint: look to the faraway corners of this country and the northern boundary with Canada). What would you say to people who might dismiss you as a mad hippie? I'd laugh. I can totally see how they might think this just by reading quickly. But if they met me, visited my home, sit at the dinner table with my two kids?they would not think so. I am an American, like them, but one who has through unusual circumstances recognized something of unusual value. -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. _______________________________________________ Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Thu Feb 4 10:58:37 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:58:37 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Whale Watch SUB Opening: CONDOR EXPRESS SAT 2/20 In-Reply-To: <4B69B4D8.2050101@noaa.gov> References: <4B69B4D8.2050101@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <4B6B18DD.2070805@noaa.gov> I have had not responses to this email, anyone available on SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 20 for the Condor Express? Shauna Bingham wrote: > Cal Meuser and Peggy Meuser are looking for a sub for their _*two > spots on the the CONDOR EXPRESS, Saturday, February 20th*_. > > There will also be one opening (Peggy is still scheduled on these two > days) on the RANGER 85 on Sunday, February 14 and Monday, February 15. > > Please respond to Shauna and Clare if you would like to be added to > the calendar for any of these trips. > -- > Shauna Bingham > Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator > NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary > 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 > Oxnard, CA 93035 > Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov > (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 > Fax (805) 382-9791 > http://channelislands.noaa.gov > > ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dean -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Thu Feb 4 14:35:49 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:35:49 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements Message-ID: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> For your reference: NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly "Climate Literacy" document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. Key Points: - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to changes in the previous 10,000 years. - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the balance of the climate system. - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and ecological resilience. - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. Additional Information: Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts Dr. Lubchenco's Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf Tom Karl's Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf Dr. Lubchenco's Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At last Saturday's Protect Our Dolphin non-profit kick-off in Santa Barbara, one of the speakers was Dr. Daniela Maldini, Chief Scientist for Okeanis in Monterey. She has been studying the coastal Bottlenose there. There were no coastal Bottlenose in Monterey Bay prior to 1982. Now, she explained, the numbers are greater than off of our coastline, with the same Bottlenose we have often migrating up there to feed. Pods along the Monterey coast often reach 20-30, while along our southern coastline the size of the pod population has been declining. She said the same dolphin often migrate from San Diego to Monterey. Her estimate on the total number was 600+. The issue of disease producing agents in the water being more common in our area, than in Monterey was not supported by her research, as she said she has followed the path of Bottlenose with lesions that they obtained while in Monterey waters, that went away when they migrated to warmer, sunnier shores. So, is the quest for a diminishing food supply the root cause for the migration north of both the Bottlenose Dolphin and the Brown Pelican? They both feed, I believe, on similar size fish along our coastline. Another possibe argument for coastal marine reserves? Food for Thought? 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The list is used by sanctuary and Park staff as a major form of communication to send out meeting reminders, boat schedule updates, and special volunteer opportunities. This is a PUBLIC email list, and anything that you email may be posted on the Web and accessible via search engines. LIST RULES 1. No posting of chain or personal emails. 2. No profanity. 3. Keep information relevant to ocean, CINC, sanctuary, and Park activities. 4. Use the list when trying to find a substitute for a boat trip or outreach event, unless you want to contact individuals by personal email or phone. Responses should be posted to the list so that everyone will know that a spot has been taken. Also, please cc: the calendar coordinator (clare.fritzsche at noaa.gov ). 5. Your post should be directed to all members of the list. Please do not make posts towards specific individuals (use personal email for that). 6. File size guideline is 40kb. Emails that are too large will be rejected. Try not to post files that are too large, or that contain many images. Please post links to large Web articles, with a brief description of the article in the text. 7. When replying to an email be sure to select REPLY ALL if you would like everyone to see your response. Otherwise, reply directly to the sender. 8. Do not cc: a long list of email recipients. If you are emailing something to the list that you are emailing to personal contacts, please send out a separate email or your post may not go through. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION To subscribe to the RAIN list, find a lost password, or change your list information enter this address into your browser: http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/sanctuary-naturalist-corps/mail4html You must supply your email address, a password, and reply to the confirmation email you receive to be subscribed. Confirmations time out after about 3 days. You may choose to disable list email by clicking on the link above, entering your email address and clicking on the button "unsubscribe or edit options." Notice the list archives link below. This will provide new volunteers or new subscribers an opportunity to review all emails sent out previously on the list. When subscribing to the RAIN list you may choose to receive emails as a digest (all daily emails in one email). However, you may not be able to receive file attachments. If you have problems subscribing to RAIN please email the list administrator. If you are having trouble receiving list email please contact your Internet/email service provider. -- Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. Harbor Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93035 (805) 382-6149 x 100 (805) 382-9791 Fax Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov http://channelislands.noaa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dvabbott at verizon.net Fri Feb 5 14:29:07 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:29:07 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> Message-ID: For your reference: http://www.climategate.com/ I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of Gore?s diatribes. Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. My best, Don On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" wrote: > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially > signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key > statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC > Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" > document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly ?Climate > Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates > that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, > primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of the > Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in > the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds > of years before being removed by natural processes, their warming influence is > projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature rose > by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees > F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem small, it > likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to changes > in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these > changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing > chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest cover, and rapid > expansion of farming, development, and industrial activities are releasing > carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the balance of the climate > system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological systems > are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting from human > activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to support various > species and have substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and ecological > resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of > seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is > beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water > sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. > Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from storm > surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of > climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number > of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of > severe cold. 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URL: From dbellman at dock.net Fri Feb 5 17:27:27 2010 From: dbellman at dock.net (Dick Bellman) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:27:27 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: References: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to the most recent email. I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com." I find the referenced website to be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would therefore offer some additional sources of information such as the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate Change and Integrity"; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change. An additional site of interest is ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org . With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist ; U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org . I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. May the search for truth continue. Respectfully, Dick On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott wrote: > For your reference: *http://www.climategate.com/ > * > I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of > HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! > > Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it > should NOT be part of RAIN. > > Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific > evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. Our mother > has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all > CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. > > BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of > Gore?s diatribes. > > Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. > > > My best, > Don > > > > > > On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" wrote: > > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have > officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number > of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN > IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate > Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly > ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the > bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates > that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, > primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of > the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse > gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere > for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their > warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature > rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 > degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem > small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared > to changes in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and > these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, > releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest > cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial > activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the > balance of the climate system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological > systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting > from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to > support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem > biodiversity and ecological resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion > of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is > beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water > sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. > Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from > storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of > climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number > of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of > severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but > more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in > areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. > > > Additional Information: > Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts < > http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts> > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf < > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf> > Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf < > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf> > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) > > http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 5 18:25:39 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:25:39 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> , <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: P.S. It should be added Dick Bellman was a respected science teacher, prior to retirement from a local high school. The point about not throwing words around like rocks is very meaningful to this climate change discussion. Rock throwing only tells those with differing views that the ones throwing the rocks are not going to listen to arguments on the other side. They have to spend too much time looking for more rocks to throw. Paul Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:27:27 -0800 From: dbellman at dock.net To: dvabbott at verizon.net CC: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org; Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to the most recent email. I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com." I find the referenced website to be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would therefore offer some additional sources of information such as the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate Change and Integrity" ; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change ; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change . An additional site of interest is MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "www.factcheck.org" claiming to be ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org . With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades I offer the following sites for further research: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "www.washingtonpost.com" claiming to be U.S. Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist ; U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American ; MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "www.factcheck.org" claiming to be ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org . I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. May the search for truth continue. Respectfully, Dick On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott wrote: For your reference: http://www.climategate.com/ I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of Gore?s diatribes. Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. My best, Don On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" wrote: For your reference: NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. Key Points: - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to changes in the previous 10,000 years. - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the balance of the climate system. - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and ecological resilience. - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. Additional Information: Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html _______________________________________________ Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mr.zalophus at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 11:01:57 2010 From: mr.zalophus at gmail.com (Mr Zalophus) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:01:57 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Swimming with whales on KCLU In-Reply-To: <1C9D6CD37F004075AA4927504C53EE10@OwnerPC> References: <1C9D6CD37F004075AA4927504C53EE10@OwnerPC> Message-ID: Photos of the whale that played in the surf for a hour and a half on Thursday at Zuma Beach are now posted to the Condor Express Photo website: www.CondorExpressPhotos.com Although these images were not from the Condor Express, I thought some of you might still like to see them. best regards, Bob Perry Condor Express Malibu High School UCLA OceanGLOBE From dvabbott at verizon.net Sat Feb 6 12:12:45 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:12:45 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dick, OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done likewise here. Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due to size limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share with those who might be interested. Thank you for your response. Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) via bold/brackets within your text below. On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" wrote: > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I appreciate > being made aware of scientific information from NOAA.? Such information > broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know and strongly > agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a high level of > integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, while in our > capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to the most > recent email. [I agree....good speak.] > > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com > ."? I find the referenced website to be lacking in > scientific credibility.? [Interesting. There is no legitimate excuse for > EVER banning scientists from open discussions relative to scientific > inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking fear the truth for > various reasons. One of the most common motives is money and power. Follow > the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global > Warming hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it is....because it is > UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you like for me to name here > who have been banned to prove my point. Here is but one: > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Polar- > bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html If you want more, here are > thousands. < http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734> Again, no excuses!] I > believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and is politically > motivated.?[Politically motivated? What do you call banning one of the > world?s foremost polar bear experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]I would > therefore offer [Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! If you can?t give me > a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd (supposedly honest > scientists all) banned scientists from presenting facts opposed to the UN > IPPC?s Report, I have to ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers > not at least ponder why? I have been pondering this question for many many > years and I suspected fraud prior to what has become known today as Climate > Gate. When I see scientists being banned I have to ask why. I think I know > why they were banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated opinion.]some > additional sources of information such as the American Association for the > Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements > on Climate Change and Integrity" > [This > report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you referenced below. ; the > American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change > [Good stuff. I quote: > ?The Earth system is highly interconnected and complex, with many processes > and feedbacks that are just beginning to be detected and understood. The > continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its current rate is > uncertain; the issue is whether the soil and land vegetation will become a > source rather than a sink of carbon as the planet warms. The portion of > increased carbon dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean more > acidic, with negative implications for shell- and skeleton-forming organisms > and more generally for ocean ecosystems. There are indications that regions of > permafrost, for example in Alaska, are already melting with the potential to > release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Such an event has the > potential to produce abrupt and catastrophic changes in climate. These > processes are only now being quantified and introduced into climate models, > and remain a large source of uncertainty.? In spite of these uncertainties > the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused Global Warming crowd....why when > it has NOT been proven? Junk science does not require any proof let alone > open discussion.]); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of > CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > [You?ve referenced > this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately the AMS didn?t follow policy > regarding freedom of scientific expression.....why?]; Impact of CRU Hacking on > the AMS Statement on Climate Change > .? An additional > site of interest is ?Climate gate? | FactCheck.org > . [I often use factcheck > myself, and I recommend this site.] > > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species > under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's sea > ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next several > decades I offer the following sites for further research:? U.S. Wants Polar > Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > 34.html> [RE: Polar Bears > Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans continue to SHOOT > them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) their prey?s food source. It is > my firm hope that NOAA, joined by others of us who are environmentally > conscious, will be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is > doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are simply too many of > us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of the Commons? is not a PC topic for > discussion here. Mankind is incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a > nuclear winter scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they can > handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and has more ice > than previously in spite of the fact that it is the driest spot on Earth. If > this is not Antartic truth I would appreciate you educating me. It is > unfortunate that there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is > mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ];? Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are > increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist > ;? U.S. Protects Polar Bears > Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American > ;? > ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > .? > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of > information have their basis in scientific fact.? [Sadly, the scientific facts > depend upon which scientist you choose to believe. I choose to believe > scientist who seek open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, I?d > consider myself a fool to choose otherwise.] At the same time it is my humble > opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far > more political than scientific. [My words are fact and I stand by them. Yes, > they?re also political in accordance with Gore?s political diatribes.] > Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued "successful sale > of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. > [You?ll find that NOAA?s budget has increased over time along with the rest of > our government which grows like a cancer. This is a fact and also a political > statement. It is also my honest educated opinion.] > May the search for truth continue. [I agree.] > > Respectfully, > Dick > > My sincere best to you, Don PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included here due to RAIN?s file size limitations. The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create (exhale) ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. Worldwide, energy needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" wrote: > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I appreciate > being made aware of scientific information from NOAA.? Such information > broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know and strongly > agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a high level of > integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, while in our > capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to the most > recent email. > > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com > ."? I find the referenced website to be lacking in > scientific credibility.? I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and is > politically motivated.? I would therefore offer some additional sources of > information such as the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( > AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate Change and > Integrity" > ; the > American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change > ); as well as the Union > Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on > Climate Change ; > Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > .? An additional > site of interest is ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > . > > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species > under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's sea > ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next several > decades I offer the following sites for further research:? U.S. Wants Polar > Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > 34.html> ;? Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - environment - > 16 May 2007 - New Scientist ;? > U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American > ;? > ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > .? > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of > information have their basis in scientific fact.? At the same time it is my > humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" > is far more political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget > depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated > rather than based in scientific reasoning. ? > > May the search for truth continue. > > Respectfully, > Dick > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott wrote: >> For your reference: http://www.climategate.com/ >> >> I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of HCGW >> (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! >> ? >> Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it >> should NOT be part of RAIN. >> >> Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific >> evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. ?Our mother >> has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. ?Need I remind all >> CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. >> >> BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of >> Gore?s diatribes. >> >> Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. >> >> >> My best, >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" > > wrote: >> >>> For your reference: >>> >>> NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially >>> signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key >>> statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC >>> Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" >>> document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly ?Climate >>> Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. >>> ?? >>> Key Points: >>> >>> - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates >>> that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the >>> latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, >>> primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the >>> burning of fossil fuels. >>> >>> - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of >>> the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse >>> gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere >>> for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their >>> warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. >>> >>> - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature >>> rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 >>> degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem >>> small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared >>> to changes in the previous 10,000 years. >>> >>> - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these >>> changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, >>> releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest >>> cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial >>> activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the >>> balance of the climate system. >>> ?? >>> - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological >>> systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting >>> from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to >>> support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem >>> biodiversity and ecological resilience. >>> ?? >>> - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of >>> seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is >>> beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water >>> sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. >>> Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from >>> storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. >>> ?? >>> - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of >>> climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number >>> of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of >>> severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but >>> more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in >>> areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. >>> ?? >>> ?? >>> Additional Information: >>> Climate Impacts in the U.S.: ?http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts >>> >>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) >>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf >>> >>> Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) >>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf >>> >>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) >>> >>> http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caislandgirl at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 12:34:31 2010 From: caislandgirl at gmail.com (Sabine Faulhaber) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:34:31 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: References: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5fa9e8401002061234j20c023edg72c47dbb86e7f99a@mail.gmail.com> I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is just about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to continue it in your private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate recently this is getting a highly personal discourse so it should for now leave the list. Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another example where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be convinced otherwise no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. Too bad we don't have any "moderators" on this list who will occasionally step up to the task of curbing these discourses. On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did not get to go this year - keep those coming. Sabine On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott wrote: > *Hi Dick, > OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done likewise > here. > Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due to size > limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share with those who > might be interested. > > Thank you for your response. > Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) via > bold/brackets within your text below. > * > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <*dbellman at dock.net*> wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I > appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA. Such > information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a > more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also > know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a > high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, > while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate > of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to > the most recent email. * [I agree....good speak.] > * > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com <* > http://climategate.com*> ." I find the referenced website to be lacking > in scientific credibility. *[Interesting. There is no legitimate excuse > for EVER banning scientists from open discussions relative to scientific > inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking fear the truth > for various reasons. One of the most common motives is money and power. > Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused > Global Warming hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it is....because > it is UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you like for me to > name here who have been banned to prove my point. Here is but one: > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Polar-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html If you want more, here are thousands. < > http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734> Again, no excuses!]* I believe > it presents a very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. *[Politically > motivated? What do you call banning one of the world?s foremost polar bear > experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]*I would therefore offer *[Please, I?m > begging you for an excuse! If you can?t give me a logical reason as to why > the Global Warming crowd (supposedly honest scientists all) banned > scientists from presenting facts opposed to the UN IPPC?s Report, I have to > ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers not at least ponder > why? I have been pondering this question for many many years and I > suspected fraud prior to what has become known today as Climate Gate. When > I see scientists being banned I have to ask why. I think I know why they > were banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated opinion.]*some > additional sources of information such as the American Association for the > Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms > Statements on Climate Change and Integrity" <* > http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1204climate_statement.shtml*> *[This > report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you referenced below. * ; > the American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate > Change <*http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html*> *[Good > stuff. I quote: *?The Earth system is highly interconnected and complex, > with many processes and feedbacks that *are just beginning to be detected > and understood*. The continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon > at its current rate* is uncertain*; the issue is whether the soil and land > vegetation will become a source rather than a sink of carbon as the planet > warms. The portion of increased carbon dioxide absorbed by the world ocean > is making the ocean more acidic, with negative implications for shell- and > skeleton-forming organisms and more generally for ocean ecosystems. There > are indications that regions of permafrost, for example in Alaska, are > already melting with the potential to release massive amounts of carbon into > the atmosphere. Such an event has the *potential* to produce abrupt and > catastrophic changes in climate. These processes are only now being > quantified and introduced into climate models, *and remain a large source > of uncertainty*.?* In spite of these uncertainties the AMS chose to jump > into the Human Caused Global Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been > proven? Junk science does not require any proof let alone open discussion. > **]*); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU > Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change <* > http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html*>* [You?ve > referenced this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately the AMS didn?t follow > policy regarding freedom of scientific expression.....why?]*; Impact of > CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change <* > http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html*> . An additional > site of interest is ?Climate gate? | FactCheck.org <*http:// > www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/*> . *[I often use factcheck myself, > and I recommend this site.] > * > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species > under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's > sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next > several decades I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. > Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com <* > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR2006122601034.html > *> *[RE: Polar Bears > Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans continue to SHOOT > them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) their prey?s food source. It > is my firm hope that NOAA, joined by others of us who are environmentally > conscious, will be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is > doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are simply too many > of us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of the Commons? is not a PC topic for > discussion here. Mankind is incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a > nuclear winter scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they can > handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and has more ice > than previously in spite of the fact that it is the driest spot on Earth. > If this is not Antartic truth I would appreciate you educating me. It is > unfortunate that there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is > mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ]*; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers > are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist <* > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11656*> ; U.S. Protects Polar Bears > Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American <* > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears-threatened*> > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org <*http:// > www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/*> . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of > information have their basis in scientific fact. *[Sadly, the scientific > facts depend upon which scientist you choose to believe. I choose to > believe scientist who seek open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, > I?d consider myself a fool to choose otherwise.] *At the same time it is > my humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's > diatribes" is far more political than scientific. *[My words are fact and > I stand by them. Yes, they?re also political in accordance with Gore?s > political diatribes.]* Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the > continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than > based in scientific reasoning. *[You?ll find that NOAA?s budget has > increased over time along with the rest of our government which grows like a > cancer. This is a fact and also a political statement. It is also my > honest educated opinion.] > *May the search for truth continue. *[I agree.] > * > Respectfully, > Dick > > *My sincere best to you, > * > > * Don > > PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included here due > to RAIN?s file size limitations. > The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create (exhale) > ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. > Worldwide, energy > needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. > > > > * > > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I > appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA. Such > information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a > more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also > know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a > high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, > while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate > of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to > the most recent email. > > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com < > http://climategate.com> ." I find the referenced website to be lacking in > scientific credibility. I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and > is politically motivated. I would therefore offer some additional sources > of information such as the American Association for the Advancement of > Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate > Change and Integrity" < > http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1204climate_statement.shtml> ; the > American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change > ); as well as the > Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement > on Climate Change > ; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change < > http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html> . An additional > site of interest is ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/> . > > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species > under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's > sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next > several decades I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. > Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com < > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR2006122601034.html> > ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May > 2007 - New Scientist ; U.S. > Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American < > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears-threatened> > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/> . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of > information have their basis in scientific fact. At the same time it is my > humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" > is far more political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget > depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated > rather than based in scientific reasoning. > > May the search for truth continue. > > Respectfully, > Dick > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott wrote: > > For your reference: *http://www.climategate.com/ > * > I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of > HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! > > Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it > should NOT be part of RAIN. > > Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific > evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. Our mother > has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all > CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. > > BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of > Gore?s diatribes. > > Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. > > > My best, > Don > > > > > > On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" http://Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov> > wrote: > > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have > officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number > of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN > IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate > Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly > ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the > bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates > that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, > primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of > the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse > gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere > for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their > warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature > rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 > degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem > small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared > to changes in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and > these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, > releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest > cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial > activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the > balance of the climate system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological > systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting > from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to > support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem > biodiversity and ecological resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion > of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is > beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water > sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. > Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from > storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of > climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number > of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of > severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but > more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in > areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. > > > Additional Information: > Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts < > http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts> > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf < > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf> > Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf < > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf> > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) > > http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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HCGW is political vs. scientific and as such it should not be a subject of discussion on RAIN w/o cause. Shauna was and is blameless, but her recent email to RAIN provided cause for me to respond to RAIN. Her email was nothing more than propaganda -- especially in light of recent events aka Climate Gate. I have expressed my concerns about the need for RAIN to remain above the political fray in the past on this issue. When RAIN members have NOT been above the fray I have taken it on myself to try and bring them back in line ? all in the sake of truth. My hope is that most of us in the CINC are interested in true science. Trust me when I say, ?I did not expect to win any friends at NOAA or RAIN when I responded to Sauna?s email knowing full well that HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming) is a Golden Goose to most environmentally conscious groups.? However, the truth must be told, and those who watch a wrong and do nothing about it are worse than the doer of the wrong itself -- I am not of that ilk. I know how I, and other experts, have been treated who have expressed facts opposed to HCGW and the UN IPPC Reports statements. The list of experts who have been banned from scientific discussions concerning HCGW is long. Sadly the jury (true science) is still out concerning HCGW (of any significance) -- and the key word is SIGNIFICANCE which is never/rarely mentioned. We all need to be environmentally conscious, but the ends never justifies the means (junk science). My best, Don Abbott PS: I welcome any and all discussions on this subject ? but these discussions need to be private email vs. RAIN. On 2/6/10 1:34 PM, "Sabine Faulhaber" wrote: > I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is just > about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to continue it in your > private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate recently this is > getting a highly personal discourse so it should for now leave the list. > > Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another example > where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be convinced otherwise > no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. Too bad we don't have any > "moderators" on this list who will occasionally step up to the task of curbing > these discourses. > > On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did not get > to go this year - keep those coming. > > Sabine > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott wrote: >> Hi Dick, >> OPS! ?I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done likewise >> here. ? >> Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due to size >> limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share with those who >> might be interested. >> >> Thank you for your response. >> Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) via >> bold/brackets within your text below. >> >> >> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" > > wrote: >> >>> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I >>> appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA.? Such >>> information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a >>> more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also >>> know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a >>> high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, >>> while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate >>> of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to >>> the most recent email. [I agree....good speak.] >>> >>> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com >>> ."? I find the referenced >>> website to be lacking in scientific credibility.? [Interesting. ??There is >>> no legitimate excuse for EVER banning scientists from open discussions >>> relative to scientific inquiry....PERIOD! ?Those who ban scientists from >>> speaking fear the truth for various reasons. ??One of the most common >>> motives is money and power. ?Follow the money trail and see who reaps the >>> benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax. ?I call it a hoax because >>> that is what it is....because it is UNPROVEN! ?How many legitimate >>> scientists would you like for me to name here who have been banned to prove >>> my point. ?Here is but one: >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Pola >>> r-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html ?If you want more, here are >>> thousands. < http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734> Again, no excuses!] >>> I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and is politically >>> motivated.?[Politically motivated? ?What do you call banning one of the >>> world?s foremost polar bear experts? ?Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]I would >>> therefore offer [Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! ?If you can?t give >>> me a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd (supposedly honest >>> scientists all) banned scientists from presenting facts opposed to the UN >>> IPPC?s Report, I have to ask if it at least bothers you. ?Should truth >>> seekers not at least ponder why? ?I have been pondering this question for >>> many many years and I suspected fraud prior to what has become known today >>> as Climate Gate. ?When I see scientists being banned I have to ask why. ?I >>> think I know why they were banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated >>> opinion.]some additional sources of information such as the American >>> Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - >>> "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate Change and Integrity" >>> [This >>> report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you referenced below. ? ?; the >>> American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change >>> [Good stuff. I quote: >>> ?The Earth system is highly interconnected and complex, with many processes >>> and feedbacks that are just beginning to be detected and understood. The >>> continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its current rate is >>> uncertain; the issue is whether the soil and land vegetation will become a >>> source rather than a sink of carbon as the planet warms. The portion of >>> increased carbon dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean >>> more acidic, with negative implications for shell- and skeleton-forming >>> organisms and more generally for ocean ecosystems. There are indications >>> that regions of permafrost, for example in Alaska, are already melting with >>> the potential to release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Such >>> an event has the potential to produce abrupt and catastrophic changes in >>> climate. These processes are only now being quantified and introduced into >>> climate models, and remain a large source of uncertainty.? ?In spite of >>> these uncertainties the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused Global >>> Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been proven? ?Junk science does not >>> require any proof let alone open discussion.]); as well as the Union Of >>> Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate >>> Change [You?ve >>> referenced this twice. ?Good stuff but unfortunately the AMS didn?t follow >>> policy regarding freedom of scientific expression.....why?]; Impact of CRU >>> Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >>> .? An additional >>> site of interest is ?Climate gate? | FactCheck.org >>> >> > . [I often use factcheck >>> myself, and I recommend this site.] >>> >>> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species >>> under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's >>> sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next >>> several decades I offer the following sites for further research:? U.S. >>> Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >>> >>> >> 1034.html> [RE: Polar Bears >>> Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans continue to SHOOT >>> them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) their prey?s food source. ?It >>> is my firm hope that NOAA, joined by others of us who are environmentally >>> conscious, will be able to keep this latter from EVER happening ?-- which is >>> doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are simply too many >>> of us (humans). ?However, ?The Tragedy of the Commons? is not a PC topic for >>> discussion here. ?Mankind is incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a >>> nuclear winter scenario. ?There are more polar bears in Canada than they can >>> handle. ?It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and has more ice >>> than previously in spite of the fact that it is the driest spot on Earth. >>> ?If this is not Antartic truth I would appreciate you educating me. ?It is >>> unfortunate that there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is >>> mankind?s fault too. ?Ha ?;-) joke ];? Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are >>> increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist >>> ;? U.S. Protects Polar Bears >>> Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American >>> ;? >>> ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >> > .? >>> >>> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of >>> information have their basis in scientific fact.? [Sadly, the scientific >>> facts depend upon which scientist you choose to believe. ?I choose to >>> believe scientist who seek open debate vs. those who ban same. ?Personally, >>> I?d consider myself a fool to choose otherwise.] At the same time it is my >>> humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" >>> is far more political than scientific. [My words are fact and I stand by >>> them. ?Yes, they?re also political in accordance with Gore?s political >>> diatribes.] ?Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued >>> "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than based in >>> scientific reasoning. [You?ll find that NOAA?s budget has increased over >>> time along with the rest of our government which grows like a cancer. ?This >>> is a fact and also a political statement. ?It is also my honest educated >>> opinion.] ? >>> May the search for truth continue. [I agree.] >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> Dick >>> >>> My sincere best to you, >> ??????Don >> >> ???????PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included here due >> to RAIN?s file size limitations. >> ??????????????The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create (exhale) >> ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. >> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Worldwide, energy >> needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. >> ???????????????? >> >> >> >> >> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" > > wrote: >> >>> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary I >>> appreciate being made aware of scientific information from NOAA.? Such >>> information broadens my knowledge base and hopefully makes me not only a >>> more enlightened citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also >>> know and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must maintain a >>> high level of integrity making sure that any discussion in which we engage, >>> while in our capacity as a naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate >>> of differing viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response to >>> the most recent email. >>> >>> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at "climategate.com >>> ."? I find the referenced >>> website to be lacking in scientific credibility.? I believe it presents a >>> very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated.? I would therefore offer >>> some additional sources of information such as the American Association for >>> the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms >>> Statements on Climate Change and Integrity" >>> ; the >>> American Meterological Society (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change >>> ); as well as the >>> Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement >>> on Climate Change >>> ; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >>> .? An additional >>> site of interest is ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >>> >> > . >>> >>> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a threatened species >>> under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 due to evidence that the animal's >>> sea ice habitat is shrinking and likely to continue to do so over the next >>> several decades I offer the following sites for further research:? U.S. >>> Wants Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >>> >>> >> 1034.html> ;? Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - environment >>> - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist >>> ;? U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific >>> American >>> ;? >>> ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >> > .? >>> >>> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned sources of >>> information have their basis in scientific fact.? At the same time it is my >>> humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" >>> is far more political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget >>> depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated >>> rather than based in scientific reasoning. ? >>> >>> May the search for truth continue. >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> Dick >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott >> > wrote: >>>> For your reference: http://www.climategate.com/ >>>> >>>> I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued successful sale of >>>> HCGW (Human Caused Global Warming).......but PLEASE! >>>> ? >>>> Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science -- and as such it >>>> should NOT be part of RAIN. >>>> >>>> Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is NO scientific >>>> evidence to support the fact that mankind melted the glaciers. ?Our mother >>>> has been in a warming trend for many thousands of years. ?Need I remind all >>>> CINC Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 years ago. >>>> >>>> BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? regardless of >>>> Gore?s diatribes. >>>> >>>> Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. politics. >>>> >>>> >>>> My best, >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> For your reference: >>>>> >>>>> NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have >>>>> officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a >>>>> number of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include >>>>> the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the >>>>> "Climate Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very >>>>> public-friendly ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links are >>>>> listed at the bottom. >>>>> ?? >>>>> Key Points: >>>>> >>>>> - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate >>>>> indicates that most of the observed increase in global average >>>>> temperatures since the latter part of the 20th century is very likely due >>>>> to human activities, primarily from increases in greenhouse gas >>>>> concentrations resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. >>>>> >>>>> - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of >>>>> the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse >>>>> gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere >>>>> for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their >>>>> warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. >>>>> >>>>> - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature >>>>> rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 >>>>> degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem >>>>> small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change >>>>> compared to changes in the previous 10,000 years. >>>>> >>>>> - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and >>>>> these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, >>>>> releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest >>>>> cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial >>>>> activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing >>>>> the balance of the climate system. >>>>> ?? >>>>> - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological >>>>> systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting >>>>> from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to >>>>> support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem >>>>> biodiversity and ecological resilience. >>>>> ?? >>>>> - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion >>>>> of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is >>>>> beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh >>>>> water sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier >>>>> islands. Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and >>>>> buildings from storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. >>>>> ?? >>>>> - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of >>>>> climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the >>>>> number of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in >>>>> episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less >>>>> frequent but more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more >>>>> frequent and severe in areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. >>>>> ?? >>>>> ?? >>>>> Additional Information: >>>>> Climate Impacts in the U.S.: ?http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) >>>>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) >>>>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) >>>>> >>>>> http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >>>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >>>> >>>> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gizmo92067 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 05:40:49 2010 From: gizmo92067 at yahoo.com (Carol Celic) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:40:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Sunday 2.7 IPCO VTA WW AM Trip Canceled Message-ID: <592104.35467.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Due to wind conditions. ~ Carol Celic Sent by two cans and piece of string From icris at aol.com Sun Feb 7 07:30:03 2010 From: icris at aol.com (William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:30:03 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <5fa9e8401002061234j20c023edg72c47dbb86e7f99a@mail.gmail.com> References: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> <5fa9e8401002061234j20c023edg72c47dbb86e7f99a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B6EDC7B.40102@aol.com> *Don and Dick "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax." This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in science books. They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would be a significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc.). The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. If all carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency to convert to other sources. Bill *Sabine Faulhaber wrote: > I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is > just about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to continue > it in your private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate > recently this is getting a highly personal discourse so it should for > now leave the list. > > Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another > example where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be > convinced otherwise no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. > Too bad we don't have any "moderators" on this list who will > occasionally step up to the task of curbing these discourses. > > On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did > not get to go this year - keep those coming. > > Sabine > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott > wrote: > > *Hi Dick, > OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done > likewise here. > Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due > to size limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share > with those who might be interested. > > Thank you for your response. > Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) > via bold/brackets within your text below. > * > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <_*MailScanner has detected a > possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* > dbellman at dock.net _> wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine > Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific > information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge > base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know > and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must > maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any > discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a > naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response > to the most recent email. * [I agree....good speak.] > * > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at > "climategate.com > <_http://climategate.com_> ." I find the referenced website > to be lacking in scientific credibility. *[Interesting. > There is no legitimate excuse for EVER banning scientists > from open discussions relative to scientific > inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking > fear the truth for various reasons. One of the most common > motives is money and power. Follow the money trail and see > who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming > hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it is....because > it is UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you like > for me to name here who have been banned to prove my point. > Here is but one: > _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Polar-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html_ > If you want more, here are thousands. < > _http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734_> Again, no > excuses!]* I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and > is politically motivated. *[Politically motivated? What do > you call banning one of the world?s foremost polar bear > experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]*I would therefore offer > *[Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! If you can?t give me > a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd > (supposedly honest scientists all) banned scientists from > presenting facts opposed to the UN IPPC?s Report, I have to > ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers not at > least ponder why? I have been pondering this question for > many many years and I suspected fraud prior to what has become > known today as Climate Gate. When I see scientists being > banned I have to ask why. I think I know why they were > banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated > opinion.]*some additional sources of information such as the > American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - > AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate > Change and Integrity" > <_http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1204climate_statement.shtml_> > *[This report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you > referenced below. * ; the American Meterological Society > (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html_> > *[Good stuff. I quote: *?The Earth system is highly > interconnected and complex, with many processes and feedbacks > that *are just beginning to be detected and understood*. The > continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its > current rate* is uncertain*; the issue is whether the soil and > land vegetation will become a source rather than a sink of > carbon as the planet warms. The portion of increased carbon > dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean more > acidic, with negative implications for shell- and > skeleton-forming organisms and more generally for ocean > ecosystems. There are indications that regions of permafrost, > for example in Alaska, are already melting with the potential > to release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Such > an event has the *potential* to produce abrupt and > catastrophic changes in climate. These processes are only now > being quantified and introduced into climate models, *and > remain a large source of uncertainty*.?* In spite of these > uncertainties the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused > Global Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been proven? Junk > science does not require any proof let alone open > discussion.**]*); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists > ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_>* > [You?ve referenced this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately > the AMS didn?t follow policy regarding freedom of scientific > expression.....why?]*; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS > Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_> . > An additional site of interest is ?Climate gate? | > FactCheck.org <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ > _> . *[I often > use factcheck myself, and I recommend this site.] > * > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a > threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 > due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking > and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades > I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants > Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > > <_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR2006122601034.html_> > *[RE: Polar Bears > Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans > continue to SHOOT them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) > their prey?s food source. It is my firm hope that NOAA, > joined by others of us who are environmentally conscious, will > be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is > doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are > simply too many of us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of the > Commons? is not a PC topic for discussion here. Mankind is > incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a nuclear winter > scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they can > handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and > has more ice than previously in spite of the fact that it is > the driest spot on Earth. If this is not Antartic truth I > would appreciate you educating me. It is unfortunate that > there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is > mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ]*; Climate myths: Polar > bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New > Scientist <_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11656_> ; > U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: > Scientific American > <_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears-threatened_> > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ > _> . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned > sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. > *[Sadly, the scientific facts depend upon which scientist you > choose to believe. I choose to believe scientist who seek > open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, I?d consider > myself a fool to choose otherwise.] *At the same time it is my > humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of > Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. *[My > words are fact and I stand by them. Yes, they?re also > political in accordance with Gore?s political diatribes.]* > Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued > "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than > based in scientific reasoning. *[You?ll find that NOAA?s > budget has increased over time along with the rest of our > government which grows like a cancer. This is a fact and also > a political statement. It is also my honest educated opinion.] > *May the search for truth continue. *[I agree.] > * > Respectfully, > Dick > > *My sincere best to you, > * > > * Don > > PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included > here due to RAIN?s file size limitations. > The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create > (exhale) ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. > Worldwide, > energy needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our > atmosphere/annum. > > > > * > > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <*MailScanner has detected a > possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* > dbellman at dock.net > wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine > Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific > information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge > base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know > and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must > maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any > discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a > naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response > to the most recent email. > > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at > "climategate.com > ." I find the referenced website to > be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it presents a > very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would > therefore offer some additional sources of information such as > the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS > - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate > Change and Integrity" > > ; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information > Statement on Climate Change > ); as > well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU > Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > ; > Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > . > An additional site of interest is ?Climategate? | > FactCheck.org > . > > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a > threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 > due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking > and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades > I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants > Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > > > ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - > environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist > ; U.S. Protects > Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American > > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > > . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned > sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. > At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement > ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more > political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget > depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems > highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. > > May the search for truth continue. > > Respectfully, > Dick > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott <*MailScanner has > detected a possible fraud attempt from "dvabbott at verizon.net" > claiming to be* dvabbott at verizon.net > > wrote: > > For your reference: _http://www.climategate.com/ > _ > I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued > successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global > Warming).......but PLEASE! > > Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science > -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. > > Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is > NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind > melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming > trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all CINC > Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 > years ago. > > BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? > regardless of Gore?s diatribes. > > Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. > politics. > > > My best, > Don > > > > > > On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" > > > wrote: > > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government > agencies have officially signed off on and been > intimately involved in producing a number of key > statements and scientific consensus documents. They > include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the > U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I > quoted some sections from the very public-friendly > ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links > are listed at the bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on > the climate indicates that most of the observed > increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to > human activities, primarily from increases in > greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil > fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution > have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases > in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in > the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being > removed by natural processes, their warming influence > is projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged > surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees > F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has > been measured since 2000. Though the total increase > may seem small, it likely represents an > extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to > changes in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and > atmosphere, and these changes have altered global > climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing > chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of > forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, > development, and industrial activities are releasing > carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the > balance of the climate system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical > and biological systems are linked to human-caused > global warming. Some changes resulting from human > activities have decreased the capacity of the > environment to support various species and have > substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and > ecological resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with > the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, > is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to > move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal > fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal > facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise > increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings > from storm surges such as those that accompany > hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to > increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations > will see a substantial increase in the number of heat > waves they experience per year and a likely decrease > in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are > expected to become less frequent but more intense in > many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and > severe in areas where precipitation is projected to > decrease. > > > Additional Information: > Climate Impacts in the U.S.: > http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf > > > Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) > > http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from > "channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org" claiming to > be* Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 7 08:43:17 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:43:17 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> References: <4B6B4BC5.6070009@noaa.gov> Message-ID: Shauna, Thank you for the Science Community consensus updates. Please keep them up! Neanderthal peoples did not adjust to a climate change in the opposite direction in their time on this planet ,due to a lack of a societal consensus on how to deal with it. We have to be as smart as our ancestors who survived that one. Paul Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:35:49 -0800 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements For your reference: NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. Key Points: - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being removed by natural processes, their warming influence is projected to persist into the next century. - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem small, it likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to changes in the previous 10,000 years. - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, development, and industrial activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the balance of the climate system. - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological systems are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting from human activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to support various species and have substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and ecological resilience. - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from storm surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. Additional Information: Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. 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URL: From cfrench1366 at aol.com Sun Feb 7 10:46:39 2010 From: cfrench1366 at aol.com (Catherine French) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:46:39 -0500 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <4B6EDC7B.40102@aol.com> References: <14e524ca1002051727h21d93627v23fb0781fcd6dcdc@mail.gmail.com> <5fa9e8401002061234j20c023edg72c47dbb86e7f99a@mail.gmail.com> <4B6EDC7B.40102@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC763D04BEFCE4-3598-12BD3@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Well said, Sabine. Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC) To: Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org; dvabbott at verizon.net; dbellman at dock.net Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 7:30 am Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements *Don and Dick "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax." This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in science books. They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would be a significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc.). The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. If all carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency to convert to other sources. Bill *Sabine Faulhaber wrote: > I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is > just about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to continue > it in your private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate > recently this is getting a highly personal discourse so it should for > now leave the list. > > Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another > example where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be > convinced otherwise no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. > Too bad we don't have any "moderators" on this list who will > occasionally step up to the task of curbing these discourses. > > On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did > not get to go this year - keep those coming. > > Sabine > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott > wrote: > > *Hi Dick, > OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done > likewise here. > Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due > to size limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share > with those who might be interested. > > Thank you for your response. > Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) > via bold/brackets within your text below. > * > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <_*MailScanner has detected a > possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* > dbellman at dock.net _> wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine > Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific > information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge > base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know > and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must > maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any > discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a > naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response > to the most recent email. * [I agree....good speak.] > * > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at > "climategate.com > <_http://climategate.com_> ." I find the referenced website > to be lacking in scientific credibility. *[Interesting. > There is no legitimate excuse for EVER banning scientists > from open discussions relative to scientific > inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking > fear the truth for various reasons. One of the most common > motives is money and power. Follow the money trail and see > who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming > hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it is....because > it is UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you like > for me to name here who have been banned to prove my point. > Here is but one: > _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Polar-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html_ > If you want more, here are thousands. < > _http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734_> Again, no > excuses!]* I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and > is politically motivated. *[Politically motivated? What do > you call banning one of the world?s foremost polar bear > experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]*I would therefore offer > *[Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! If you can?t give me > a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd > (supposedly honest scientists all) banned scientists from > presenting facts opposed to the UN IPPC?s Report, I have to > ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers not at > least ponder why? I have been pondering this question for > many many years and I suspected fraud prior to what has become > known today as Climate Gate. When I see scientists being > banned I have to ask why. I think I know why they were > banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated > opinion.]*some additional sources of information such as the > American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - > AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate > Change and Integrity" > <_http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1204climate_statement.shtml_> > *[This report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you > referenced below. * ; the American Meterological Society > (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html_> > *[Good stuff. I quote: *?The Earth system is highly > interconnected and complex, with many processes and feedbacks > that *are just beginning to be detected and understood*. The > continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its > current rate* is uncertain*; the issue is whether the soil and > land vegetation will become a source rather than a sink of > carbon as the planet warms. The portion of increased carbon > dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean more > acidic, with negative implications for shell- and > skeleton-forming organisms and more generally for ocean > ecosystems. There are indications that regions of permafrost, > for example in Alaska, are already melting with the potential > to release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Such > an event has the *potential* to produce abrupt and > catastrophic changes in climate. These processes are only now > being quantified and introduced into climate models, *and > remain a large source of uncertainty*.?* In spite of these > uncertainties the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused > Global Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been proven? Junk > science does not require any proof let alone open > discussion.**]*); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists > ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_>* > [You?ve referenced this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately > the AMS didn?t follow policy regarding freedom of scientific > expression.....why?]*; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS > Statement on Climate Change > <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_> . > An additional site of interest is ?Climate gate? | > FactCheck.org <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ > _> . *[I often > use factcheck myself, and I recommend this site.] > * > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a > threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 > due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking > and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades > I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants > Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > > <_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR2006122601034.html_> > *[RE: Polar Bears > Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans > continue to SHOOT them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) > their prey?s food source. It is my firm hope that NOAA, > joined by others of us who are environmentally conscious, will > be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is > doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are > simply too many of us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of the > Commons? is not a PC topic for discussion here. Mankind is > incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a nuclear winter > scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they can > handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and > has more ice than previously in spite of the fact that it is > the driest spot on Earth. If this is not Antartic truth I > would appreciate you educating me. It is unfortunate that > there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is > mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ]*; Climate myths: Polar > bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New > Scientist <_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11656_> ; > U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: > Scientific American > <_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears-threatened_> > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ > _> . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned > sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. > *[Sadly, the scientific facts depend upon which scientist you > choose to believe. I choose to believe scientist who seek > open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, I?d consider > myself a fool to choose otherwise.] *At the same time it is my > humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of > Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. *[My > words are fact and I stand by them. Yes, they?re also > political in accordance with Gore?s political diatribes.]* > Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued > "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than > based in scientific reasoning. *[You?ll find that NOAA?s > budget has increased over time along with the rest of our > government which grows like a cancer. This is a fact and also > a political statement. It is also my honest educated opinion.] > *May the search for truth continue. *[I agree.] > * > Respectfully, > Dick > > *My sincere best to you, > * > > * Don > > PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included > here due to RAIN?s file size limitations. > The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create > (exhale) ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. > Worldwide, > energy needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our > atmosphere/annum. > > > > * > > > On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <*MailScanner has detected a > possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* > dbellman at dock.net > wrote: > > As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine > Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific > information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge > base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened > citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know > and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must > maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any > discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a > naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing > viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response > to the most recent email. > > I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at > "climategate.com > ." I find the referenced website to > be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it presents a > very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would > therefore offer some additional sources of information such as > the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS > - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate > Change and Integrity" > > ; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information > Statement on Climate Change > ); as > well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU > Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > ; > Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change > . > An additional site of interest is ?Climategate? | > FactCheck.org > . > > With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a > threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 > due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking > and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades > I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants > Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com > > > ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - > environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist > ; U.S. Protects > Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American > > ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org > > . > > I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned > sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. > At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement > ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more > political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget > depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems > highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. > > May the search for truth continue. > > Respectfully, > Dick > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott <*MailScanner has > detected a possible fraud attempt from "dvabbott at verizon.net" > claiming to be* dvabbott at verizon.net > > wrote: > > For your reference: _http://www.climategate.com/ > _ > I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued > successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global > Warming).......but PLEASE! > > Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science > -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. > > Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is > NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind > melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming > trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all CINC > Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 > years ago. > > BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? > regardless of Gore?s diatribes. > > Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. > politics. > > > My best, > Don > > > > > > On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" > > > wrote: > > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government > agencies have officially signed off on and been > intimately involved in producing a number of key > statements and scientific consensus documents. They > include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the > U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I > quoted some sections from the very public-friendly > ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links > are listed at the bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on > the climate indicates that most of the observed > increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to > human activities, primarily from increases in > greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil > fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution > have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases > in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in > the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being > removed by natural processes, their warming influence > is projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged > surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees > F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has > been measured since 2000. Though the total increase > may seem small, it likely represents an > extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to > changes in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and > atmosphere, and these changes have altered global > climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing > chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of > forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, > development, and industrial activities are releasing > carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the > balance of the climate system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical > and biological systems are linked to human-caused > global warming. Some changes resulting from human > activities have decreased the capacity of the > environment to support various species and have > substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and > ecological resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with > the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, > is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to > move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal > fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal > facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise > increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings > from storm surges such as those that accompany > hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to > increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations > will see a substantial increase in the number of heat > waves they experience per year and a likely decrease > in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are > expected to become less frequent but more intense in > many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and > severe in areas where precipitation is projected to > decrease. > > > Additional Information: > Climate Impacts in the U.S.: > http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf > > > Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) > > http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from > "channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org" claiming to > be* Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > _______________________________________________ Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gizmo92067 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 11:18:55 2010 From: gizmo92067 at yahoo.com (Carol Celic) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:18:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Sunday 2.7 IPCO VTA WW PM Trip Canceled Message-ID: <94125.33074.qm@web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Too windy ~ Carol Celic Sent by two cans and piece of string From dvabbott at verizon.net Sun Feb 7 15:21:50 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:21:50 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sadly I?m forced to post this to RAIN in defense of Paul?s post to same. Paul, Please! I have NEVER denied our mother?s warming trend. Fortunately, she?s been warming for many many thousands of years. This is not the first time you?ve thrown stones concerning my attempts to keep RAIN free from politics. Please put politics aside for the moment here. My motives have been honorable -- solely in the defense of true science vs. junk science. The honest jury is still out relative to HCGW. Sadly, HCGW has become a political issue via those who have been banning discussions and refusing debates for years. Why? My best guess is money and power.....this is my humble opinion. The banning of scientific thought/speech is an evil for which there is no honorable excuse -- PERIOD! My thermal model and worldwide CO2 analyses may be wrong -- but an ?honorable wrong? is better than an ?evil right?. My best, Don On 2/7/10 9:43 AM, "Paul Jr. Petrich" wrote: > Shauna, > Thank you for the Science Community consensus updates. Please keep them up! > Neanderthal peoples did not adjust to a climate change in the opposite > direction in their time on this planet ,due to a lack of a societal consensus > on how to deal with it. We have to be as smart as our ancestors who survived > that one. Paul > > > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:35:49 -0800 > From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov > To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements > > For your reference: > > NOAA and its scientists as well as other government agencies have officially > signed off on and been intimately involved in producing a number of key > statements and scientific consensus documents. They include the UN IPCC > Report, the Climate Impacts in the U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" > document. I quoted some sections from the very public-friendly ?Climate > Literacy? document which is attached. Links are listed at the bottom. > > Key Points: > > - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on the climate indicates > that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the > latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to human activities, > primarily from increases in greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the > burning of fossil fuels. > > - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil fuels since the start of the > Industrial Revolution have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in > the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds > of years before being removed by natural processes, their warming influence is > projected to persist into the next century. > > - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged surface temperature rose > by approximately 1.08 degrees F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees > F has been measured since 2000. Though the total increase may seem small, it > likely represents an extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to changes > in the previous 10,000 years. > > - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and atmosphere, and these > changes have altered global climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing > chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of forest cover, and rapid > expansion of farming, development, and industrial activities are releasing > carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the balance of the climate > system. > > - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical and biological systems > are linked to human-caused global warming. Some changes resulting from human > activities have decreased the capacity of the environment to support various > species and have substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and ecological > resilience. > > - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with the thermal expansion of > seawater as the oceans warm, is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is > beginning to move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal fresh water > sources and beginning to submerge coastal facilities and barrier islands. > Sea-level rise increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings from storm > surges such as those that accompany hurricanes. > > - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to increase as a result of > climate chance. Many locations will see a substantial increase in the number > of heat waves they experience per year and a likely decrease in episodes of > severe cold. Precipitation events are expected to become less frequent but > more intense in many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and severe in > areas where precipitation is projected to decrease. > > > Additional Information: > Climate Impacts in the U.S.: http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf > > Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) > http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf > > Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) > > http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dvabbott at verizon.net Sun Feb 7 17:52:44 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:52:44 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: <4B6EDC7B.40102@aol.com> Message-ID: Bill, Please! Let us keep RAIN free of politics. I shall counter your arguments privately -- not on RAIN. My best, Don On 2/7/10 8:30 AM, "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" wrote: > *Don and Dick > > > "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human > Caused Global Warming hoax." > > This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries > (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, > insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a > huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are > not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we > know it. Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to > the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in > science books. They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. > The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if > ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the > planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. The > largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that > changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people > of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would be a > significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to > distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline > could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was > significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same > smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. > etc.). The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people > bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited > as did the health of the planet. If all carbon based fuels disapeared > from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in > history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency > to convert to other sources. > Bill > > > *Sabine Faulhaber wrote: >> I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is >> just about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to continue >> it in your private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate >> recently this is getting a highly personal discourse so it should for >> now leave the list. >> >> Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another >> example where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be >> convinced otherwise no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. >> Too bad we don't have any "moderators" on this list who will >> occasionally step up to the task of curbing these discourses. >> >> On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did >> not get to go this year - keep those coming. >> >> Sabine >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott > > wrote: >> >> *Hi Dick, >> OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve done >> likewise here. >> Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN due >> to size limitations, but you have it and please feel free to share >> with those who might be interested. >> >> Thank you for your response. >> Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) >> via bold/brackets within your text below. >> * >> >> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <_*MailScanner has detected a >> possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* >> dbellman at dock.net _> wrote: >> >> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine >> Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific >> information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge >> base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened >> citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know >> and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must >> maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any >> discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a >> naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing >> viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response >> to the most recent email. * [I agree....good speak.] >> * >> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at >> "climategate.com >> <_http://climategate.com_> ." I find the referenced website >> to be lacking in scientific credibility. *[Interesting. >> There is no legitimate excuse for EVER banning scientists >> from open discussions relative to scientific >> inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking >> fear the truth for various reasons. One of the most common >> motives is money and power. Follow the money trail and see >> who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming >> hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it is....because >> it is UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you like >> for me to name here who have been banned to prove my point. >> Here is but one: >> >> _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Pola >> r-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html_ >> If you want more, here are thousands. < >> _http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734_> Again, no >> excuses!]* I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and >> is politically motivated. *[Politically motivated? What do >> you call banning one of the world?s foremost polar bear >> experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]*I would therefore offer >> *[Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! If you can?t give me >> a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd >> (supposedly honest scientists all) banned scientists from >> presenting facts opposed to the UN IPPC?s Report, I have to >> ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers not at >> least ponder why? I have been pondering this question for >> many many years and I suspected fraud prior to what has become >> known today as Climate Gate. When I see scientists being >> banned I have to ask why. I think I know why they were >> banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated >> opinion.]*some additional sources of information such as the >> American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - >> AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate >> Change and Integrity" >> >> <_http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1204climate_statement.shtml_> >> *[This report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you >> referenced below. * ; the American Meterological Society >> (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change >> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html_> >> *[Good stuff. I quote: *?The Earth system is highly >> interconnected and complex, with many processes and feedbacks >> that *are just beginning to be detected and understood*. The >> continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its >> current rate* is uncertain*; the issue is whether the soil and >> land vegetation will become a source rather than a sink of >> carbon as the planet warms. The portion of increased carbon >> dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean more >> acidic, with negative implications for shell- and >> skeleton-forming organisms and more generally for ocean >> ecosystems. There are indications that regions of permafrost, >> for example in Alaska, are already melting with the potential >> to release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Such >> an event has the *potential* to produce abrupt and >> catastrophic changes in climate. These processes are only now >> being quantified and introduced into climate models, *and >> remain a large source of uncertainty*.?* In spite of these >> uncertainties the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused >> Global Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been proven? Junk >> science does not require any proof let alone open >> discussion.**]*); as well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists >> ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_>* >> [You?ve referenced this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately >> the AMS didn?t follow policy regarding freedom of scientific >> expression.....why?]*; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS >> Statement on Climate Change >> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_> . >> An additional site of interest is ?Climate gate? | >> FactCheck.org <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ >> _> . *[I often >> use factcheck myself, and I recommend this site.] >> * >> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a >> threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 >> due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking >> and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades >> I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants >> Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >> >> >> <_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR200612260 >> 1034.html_> >> *[RE: Polar Bears >> Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans >> continue to SHOOT them -- or we continue to harvest (kill-off) >> their prey?s food source. It is my firm hope that NOAA, >> joined by others of us who are environmentally conscious, will >> be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is >> doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are >> simply too many of us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of the >> Commons? is not a PC topic for discussion here. Mankind is >> incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a nuclear winter >> scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they can >> handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is colder and >> has more ice than previously in spite of the fact that it is >> the driest spot on Earth. If this is not Antartic truth I >> would appreciate you educating me. It is unfortunate that >> there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is >> mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ]*; Climate myths: Polar >> bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - New >> Scientist <_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11656_> ; >> U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: >> Scientific American >> >> <_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears-threatened_> >> ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >> <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ >> _> . >> >> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned >> sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. >> *[Sadly, the scientific facts depend upon which scientist you >> choose to believe. I choose to believe scientist who seek >> open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, I?d consider >> myself a fool to choose otherwise.] *At the same time it is my >> humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of >> Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. *[My >> words are fact and I stand by them. Yes, they?re also >> political in accordance with Gore?s political diatribes.]* >> Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the continued >> "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather than >> based in scientific reasoning. *[You?ll find that NOAA?s >> budget has increased over time along with the rest of our >> government which grows like a cancer. This is a fact and also >> a political statement. It is also my honest educated opinion.] >> *May the search for truth continue. *[I agree.] >> * >> Respectfully, >> Dick >> >> *My sincere best to you, >> * >> >> * Don >> >> PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be included >> here due to RAIN?s file size limitations. >> The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create >> (exhale) ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. >> Worldwide, >> energy needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our >> atmosphere/annum. >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <*MailScanner has detected a >> possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* >> dbellman at dock.net > wrote: >> >> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine >> Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific >> information from NOAA. Such information broadens my knowledge >> base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened >> citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also know >> and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must >> maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any >> discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a >> naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of differing >> viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response >> to the most recent email. >> >> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at >> "climategate.com >> ." I find the referenced website to >> be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it presents a >> very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would >> therefore offer some additional sources of information such as >> the American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS >> - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate >> Change and Integrity" >> >> ; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information >> Statement on Climate Change >> ); as >> well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU >> Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >> ; >> Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >> . >> An additional site of interest is ?Climategate? | >> FactCheck.org > > . >> >> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a >> threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 >> due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is shrinking >> and likely to continue to do so over the next several decades >> I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. Wants >> Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >> >> >> > 034.html> >> ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - >> environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist >> ; U.S. Protects >> Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific American >> >> >> ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >> > > . >> >> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned >> sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. >> At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement >> ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more >> political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget >> depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems >> highly opinionated rather than based in scientific reasoning. >> >> May the search for truth continue. >> >> Respectfully, >> Dick >> >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott <*MailScanner has >> detected a possible fraud attempt from "dvabbott at verizon.net" >> claiming to be* dvabbott at verizon.net >> > wrote: >> >> For your reference: _http://www.climategate.com/ >> _ >> I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued >> successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global >> Warming).......but PLEASE! >> >> Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science >> -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. >> >> Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but there is >> NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind >> melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming >> trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all CINC >> Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 >> years ago. >> >> BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction either ? >> regardless of Gore?s diatribes. >> >> Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. >> politics. >> >> >> My best, >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" >> >> > wrote: >> >> For your reference: >> >> NOAA and its scientists as well as other government >> agencies have officially signed off on and been >> intimately involved in producing a number of key >> statements and scientific consensus documents. They >> include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts in the >> U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I >> quoted some sections from the very public-friendly >> ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links >> are listed at the bottom. >> >> Key Points: >> >> - The overwhelming consensus of scientific studies on >> the climate indicates that most of the observed >> increase in global average temperatures since the >> latter part of the 20th century is very likely due to >> human activities, primarily from increases in >> greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the >> burning of fossil fuels. >> >> - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil >> fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution >> have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases >> in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in >> the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being >> removed by natural processes, their warming influence >> is projected to persist into the next century. >> >> - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged >> surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 degrees >> F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F has >> been measured since 2000. Though the total increase >> may seem small, it likely represents an >> extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to >> changes in the previous 10,000 years. >> >> - Human activities have affected the land, oceans, and >> atmosphere, and these changes have altered global >> climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing >> chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the amount of >> forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, >> development, and industrial activities are releasing >> carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the >> balance of the climate system. >> >> - Growing evidence shows that changes in many physical >> and biological systems are linked to human-caused >> global warming. Some changes resulting from human >> activities have decreased the capacity of the >> environment to support various species and have >> substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and >> ecological resilience. >> >> - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with >> the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans warm, >> is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is beginning to >> move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal >> fresh water sources and beginning to submerge coastal >> facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise >> increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings >> from storm surges such as those that accompany >> hurricanes. >> >> - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to >> increase as a result of climate chance. Many locations >> will see a substantial increase in the number of heat >> waves they experience per year and a likely decrease >> in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are >> expected to become less frequent but more intense in >> many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and >> severe in areas where precipitation is projected to >> decrease. >> >> >> Additional Information: >> Climate Impacts in the U.S.: >> http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts >> >> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, 2009) >> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Lubchenco120209.pdf >> >> >> Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) >> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf >> >> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May 5, 2009) >> >> http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from >> "channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org" claiming to >> be* Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> >> >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps >> > From diver23 at cox.net Sun Feb 7 18:06:53 2010 From: diver23 at cox.net (Kevin Bailey) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:06:53 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Condor Sunday 7th cancelled Message-ID: <003501caa863$6284cee0$278e6ca0$@net> Yesterday it was the rain, today it was the wind, bummer, if not for the wind it was a great day Tomorrow will be the orcas! J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CalMeuser at aol.com Sun Feb 7 21:38:58 2010 From: CalMeuser at aol.com (CalMeuser at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:38:58 EST Subject: [CINC] Need replacement for Ranger 85, Sunday & Monday Message-ID: <14918.2d69cfa0.38a0fd72@aol.com> I need a replacement for the Ranger 85 for Sunday and Monday, 14th & 15th. Cal Meuser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nkvanslyke at verizon.net Mon Feb 8 05:51:15 2010 From: nkvanslyke at verizon.net (Noel and Kathy Van Slyke) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:51:15 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Interesting book on the oceans Message-ID: <0KXI00C4CZW2CO77@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> For those of you interested in ocean problems Sylvia Earle, oceanographer and National Geographic Explorer in Residence, has written a new book The World is Blue How Our Fate and the Oceans are One. While she does discuss climate change, she also discusses many of the other ocean problems in a simple and understandable manner and emphasizes the importance or marine sanctuaries. One of her statements is that she feels the next 10 years are very important to the health of the ocean. I think it is a book that many of you would find interesting. Kathy Van Slyke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From georgetidd at mac.com Mon Feb 8 08:29:06 2010 From: georgetidd at mac.com (George Tidd) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:29:06 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B76A445-AE30-4478-8D86-10B75E49CFBA@mac.com> Panel On Climate Faces More Challenges. From Wall Street Journal Today! http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB10001424052748704197104575051620263103684.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_world On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Don Abbott wrote: > Bill, > > Please! Let us keep RAIN free of politics. > I shall counter your arguments privately -- not on RAIN. > > My best, > Don > > > > > On 2/7/10 8:30 AM, "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" > wrote: > >> *Don and Dick >> >> >> "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human >> Caused Global Warming hoax." >> >> This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries >> (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, >> insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all >> have a >> huge vested interest in convincing the public that their >> activities are >> not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life >> as we >> know it. Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are >> similar to >> the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in >> science books. They also argue that there is n"no proof" of >> evolution. >> The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence >> that if >> ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the >> planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. >> The >> largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that >> changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the >> people >> of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would >> be a >> significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to >> distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline >> could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was >> significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same >> smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, >> etc. >> etc.). The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but >> people >> bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy >> benefited >> as did the health of the planet. If all carbon based fuels >> disapeared >> from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic >> boom in >> history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with >> urgency >> to convert to other sources. >> Bill >> >> >> *Sabine Faulhaber wrote: >>> I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I think this is >>> just about enough of this "discussion" - please feel free to >>> continue >>> it in your private correspondence - but just as the fishing debate >>> recently this is getting a highly personal discourse so it should >>> for >>> now leave the list. >>> >>> Sorry I can't put this more eloquently but I think this is another >>> example where both sides feel they are well informed and won't be >>> convinced otherwise no matter how long this 'discussion' continues. >>> Too bad we don't have any "moderators" on this list who will >>> occasionally step up to the task of curbing these discourses. >>> >>> On the other hand I enjoy all the whale-watching reports since I did >>> not get to go this year - keep those coming. >>> >>> Sabine >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Don Abbott >> > wrote: >>> >>> *Hi Dick, >>> OPS! I just now noticed that you responded to RAIN, so I?ve >>> done >>> likewise here. >>> Sadly I can only include a summary of my CO2 analysis to RAIN >>> due >>> to size limitations, but you have it and please feel free to >>> share >>> with those who might be interested. >>> >>> Thank you for your response. >>> Please allow me to respond to your points of concern (arguments) >>> via bold/brackets within your text below. >>> * >>> >>> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <_*MailScanner has detected a >>> possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* >>> dbellman at dock.net _> wrote: >>> >>> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine >>> Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific >>> information from NOAA. Such information broadens my >>> knowledge >>> base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened >>> citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also >>> know >>> and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must >>> maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any >>> discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a >>> naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of >>> differing >>> viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response >>> to the most recent email. * [I agree....good speak.] >>> * >>> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at >>> "climategate.com >>> <_http://climategate.com_> ." I find the referenced website >>> to be lacking in scientific credibility. *[Interesting. >>> There is no legitimate excuse for EVER banning scientists >>> from open discussions relative to scientific >>> inquiry....PERIOD! Those who ban scientists from speaking >>> fear the truth for various reasons. One of the most common >>> motives is money and power. Follow the money trail and see >>> who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming >>> hoax. I call it a hoax because that is what it >>> is....because >>> it is UNPROVEN! How many legitimate scientists would you >>> like >>> for me to name here who have been banned to prove my point. >>> Here is but one: >>> >>> _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/ >>> 5664069/Pola >>> r-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html_ >>> If you want more, here are thousands. < >>> _http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=64734_> Again, no >>> excuses!]* I believe it presents a very biased viewpoint and >>> is politically motivated. *[Politically motivated? What do >>> you call banning one of the world?s foremost polar bear >>> experts? Again I say -- no EXCUSE!]*I would therefore offer >>> *[Please, I?m begging you for an excuse! If you can?t >>> give me >>> a logical reason as to why the Global Warming crowd >>> (supposedly honest scientists all) banned scientists from >>> presenting facts opposed to the UN IPPC?s Report, I have to >>> ask if it at least bothers you. Should truth seekers not at >>> least ponder why? I have been pondering this question for >>> many many years and I suspected fraud prior to what has >>> become >>> known today as Climate Gate. When I see scientists being >>> banned I have to ask why. I think I know why they were >>> banned, but I also admit ? this it?s my educated >>> opinion.]*some additional sources of information such as the >>> American Association for the Advancement of Science ( AAAS - >>> AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate >>> Change and Integrity" >>> >>> <_http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/ >>> 2009/1204climate_statement.shtml_> >>> *[This report is essentially a copy of the AMS site you >>> referenced below. * ; the American Meterological Society >>> (AMS Information Statement on Climate Change >>> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html_> >>> *[Good stuff. I quote: *?The Earth system is highly >>> interconnected and complex, with many processes and >>> feedbacks >>> that *are just beginning to be detected and understood*. The >>> continued ability of the biosphere to take up carbon at its >>> current rate* is uncertain*; the issue is whether the >>> soil and >>> land vegetation will become a source rather than a sink of >>> carbon as the planet warms. The portion of increased carbon >>> dioxide absorbed by the world ocean is making the ocean more >>> acidic, with negative implications for shell- and >>> skeleton-forming organisms and more generally for ocean >>> ecosystems. There are indications that regions of >>> permafrost, >>> for example in Alaska, are already melting with the >>> potential >>> to release massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. >>> Such >>> an event has the *potential* to produce abrupt and >>> catastrophic changes in climate. These processes are only >>> now >>> being quantified and introduced into climate models, *and >>> remain a large source of uncertainty*.?* In spite of these >>> uncertainties the AMS chose to jump into the Human Caused >>> Global Warming crowd....why when it has NOT been proven? >>> Junk >>> science does not require any proof let alone open >>> discussion.**]*); as well as the Union Of Concerned >>> Scientists >>> ( Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate >>> Change >>> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeclarify.html_>* >>> [You?ve referenced this twice. Good stuff but unfortunately >>> the AMS didn?t follow policy regarding freedom of scientific >>> expression.....why?]*; Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS >>> Statement on Climate Change >>> <_http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/ >>> climatechangeclarify.html_> . >>> An additional site of interest is ?Climate gate? | >>> FactCheck.org <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/ >>> climategate/ >>> _> . *[I >>> often >>> use factcheck myself, and I recommend this site.] >>> * >>> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a >>> threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 >>> due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is >>> shrinking >>> and likely to continue to do so over the next several >>> decades >>> I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. >>> Wants >>> Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >>> >>> >>> <_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/ >>> AR200612260 >>> 1034.html_> >>> *[RE: Polar Bears >>> Polar Bears will have problems only so long as we humans >>> continue to SHOOT them -- or we continue to harvest (kill- >>> off) >>> their prey?s food source. It is my firm hope that NOAA, >>> joined by others of us who are environmentally conscious, >>> will >>> be able to keep this latter from EVER happening -- which is >>> doubtful because the EVERLASTING problem today is there are >>> simply too many of us (humans). However, ?The Tragedy of >>> the >>> Commons? is not a PC topic for discussion here. Mankind is >>> incapable of re-cooling our planet short of a nuclear winter >>> scenario. There are more polar bears in Canada than they >>> can >>> handle. It?s my understanding that the Antartic is >>> colder and >>> has more ice than previously in spite of the fact that it is >>> the driest spot on Earth. If this is not Antartic truth I >>> would appreciate you educating me. It is unfortunate that >>> there are no polar bears in Antartic -- perhaps that is >>> mankind?s fault too. Ha ;-) joke ]*; Climate myths: Polar >>> bear numbers are increasing - environment - 16 May 2007 - >>> New >>> Scientist <_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11656_> ; >>> U.S. Protects Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: >>> Scientific American >>> >>> <_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=polar-bears- >>> threatened_> >>> ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >>> <_http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/ >>> _> . >>> >>> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned >>> sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. >>> *[Sadly, the scientific facts depend upon which scientist >>> you >>> choose to believe. I choose to believe scientist who seek >>> open debate vs. those who ban same. Personally, I?d >>> consider >>> myself a fool to choose otherwise.] *At the same time it >>> is my >>> humble opinion that any statement ending in "regardless of >>> Gore's diatribes" is far more political than scientific. * >>> [My >>> words are fact and I stand by them. Yes, they?re also >>> political in accordance with Gore?s political diatribes.]* >>> Likewise a claim that NOAA's budget depends on the >>> continued >>> "successful sale of HCGW" seems highly opinionated rather >>> than >>> based in scientific reasoning. *[You?ll find that NOAA?s >>> budget has increased over time along with the rest of our >>> government which grows like a cancer. This is a fact and >>> also >>> a political statement. It is also my honest educated >>> opinion.] >>> *May the search for truth continue. *[I agree.] >>> * >>> Respectfully, >>> Dick >>> >>> *My sincere best to you, >>> * >>> >>> * Don >>> >>> PS: Sadly the copy of my CO2 analyses could not be >>> included >>> here due to RAIN?s file size limitations. >>> The summary results are: Worldwide, animals create >>> (exhale) ~1200 Bn tons of CO2 into our atmosphere/annum. >>> >>> Worldwide, >>> energy needs releases only ~30 Bn tons of CO2 into our >>> atmosphere/annum. >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> On 2/5/10 6:27 PM, "Dick Bellman" <*MailScanner has detected a >>> possible fraud attempt from "dbellman at dock.net" claiming to be* >>> dbellman at dock.net > wrote: >>> >>> As a volunteer with the Channel Islands National Marine >>> Sanctuary I appreciate being made aware of scientific >>> information from NOAA. Such information broadens my >>> knowledge >>> base and hopefully makes me not only a more enlightened >>> citizen but possibly a better naturalist as well. I also >>> know >>> and strongly agree that in our work as naturalists we must >>> maintain a high level of integrity making sure that any >>> discussion in which we engage, while in our capacity as a >>> naturalist, is balanced, unbiased and considerate of >>> differing >>> viewpoints. In that light I put forth the following response >>> to the most recent email. >>> >>> I respectfully disagree with the position set forth at >>> "climategate.com >>> ." I find the referenced >>> website to >>> be lacking in scientific credibility. I believe it >>> presents a >>> very biased viewpoint and is politically motivated. I would >>> therefore offer some additional sources of information >>> such as >>> the American Association for the Advancement of Science >>> ( AAAS >>> - AAAS News Release - "AAAS Reaffirms Statements on Climate >>> Change and Integrity" >>> >> 2009/1204climate_statement.shtml> >>> ; the American Meterological Society (AMS Information >>> Statement on Climate Change >>> ); as >>> well as the Union Of Concerned Scientists ( Impact of CRU >>> Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >>> ; >>> Impact of CRU Hacking on the AMS Statement on Climate Change >>> . >>> An additional site of interest is ?Climategate? | >>> FactCheck.org >> > . >>> >>> With respect to polar bears which have been listed as a >>> threatened species under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 >>> due to evidence that the animal's sea ice habitat is >>> shrinking >>> and likely to continue to do so over the next several >>> decades >>> I offer the following sites for further research: U.S. >>> Wants >>> Polar Bears Listed as Threatened - washingtonpost.com >>> >>> >>> >> AR2006122601 >>> 034.html> >>> ; Climate myths: Polar bear numbers are increasing - >>> environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist >>> ; U.S. >>> Protects >>> Polar Bears Under Endangered Species Act: Scientific >>> American >>> >>> >> threatened> >>> ; ?Climategate? | FactCheck.org >>> >> > . >>> >>> I believe it is safe to say that all of the aforementioned >>> sources of information have their basis in scientific fact. >>> At the same time it is my humble opinion that any statement >>> ending in "regardless of Gore's diatribes" is far more >>> political than scientific. Likewise a claim that NOAA's >>> budget >>> depends on the continued "successful sale of HCGW" seems >>> highly opinionated rather than based in scientific >>> reasoning. >>> >>> May the search for truth continue. >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> Dick >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Don Abbott <*MailScanner has >>> detected a possible fraud attempt from >>> "dvabbott at verizon.net" >>> claiming to be* dvabbott at verizon.net >>> > wrote: >>> >>> For your reference: _http://www.climategate.com/ >>> _ >>> I know NOAA?s budget largely depends on the continued >>> successful sale of HCGW (Human Caused Global >>> Warming).......but PLEASE! >>> >>> Sadly (VERY SADLY) HCGW is a political issue vs. science >>> -- and as such it should NOT be part of RAIN. >>> >>> Yes, humans ARE screwing up the environment, but >>> there is >>> NO scientific evidence to support the fact that mankind >>> melted the glaciers. Our mother has been in a warming >>> trend for many thousands of years. Need I remind all >>> CINC >>> Naturalists that glaciers were at our doorstep 18,000 >>> years ago. >>> >>> BTW, Polar Bears are not in threat of extinction >>> either ? >>> regardless of Gore?s diatribes. >>> >>> Please, let us keep RAIN a place where truth rings vs. >>> politics. >>> >>> >>> My best, >>> Don >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/4/10 3:35 PM, "Shauna Bingham" >>> >> Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> For your reference: >>> >>> NOAA and its scientists as well as other government >>> agencies have officially signed off on and been >>> intimately involved in producing a number of key >>> statements and scientific consensus documents. They >>> include the UN IPCC Report, the Climate Impacts >>> in the >>> U.S. Report and the "Climate Literacy" document. I >>> quoted some sections from the very public-friendly >>> ?Climate Literacy? document which is attached. Links >>> are listed at the bottom. >>> >>> Key Points: >>> >>> - The overwhelming consensus of scientific >>> studies on >>> the climate indicates that most of the observed >>> increase in global average temperatures since the >>> latter part of the 20th century is very likely >>> due to >>> human activities, primarily from increases in >>> greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from the >>> burning of fossil fuels. >>> >>> - Emissions from the widespread burning of fossil >>> fuels since the start of the Industrial Revolution >>> have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases >>> in the atmosphere. Because these gases can remain in >>> the atmosphere for hundreds of years before being >>> removed by natural processes, their warming >>> influence >>> is projected to persist into the next century. >>> >>> - During the 20th century, Earth's globally averaged >>> surface temperature rose by approximately 1.08 >>> degrees >>> F. Additional warming of more than 0.25 degrees F >>> has >>> been measured since 2000. Though the total increase >>> may seem small, it likely represents an >>> extraordinarily rapid rate of change compared to >>> changes in the previous 10,000 years. >>> >>> - Human activities have affected the land, >>> oceans, and >>> atmosphere, and these changes have altered global >>> climate patterns. Burning fossil fuels, releasing >>> chemicals into the atmosphere, reducing the >>> amount of >>> forest cover, and rapid expansion of farming, >>> development, and industrial activities are releasing >>> carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and changing the >>> balance of the climate system. >>> >>> - Growing evidence shows that changes in many >>> physical >>> and biological systems are linked to human-caused >>> global warming. Some changes resulting from human >>> activities have decreased the capacity of the >>> environment to support various species and have >>> substantially reduced ecosystem biodiversity and >>> ecological resilience. >>> >>> - Melting of ice sheets and glaciers, combined with >>> the thermal expansion of seawater as the oceans >>> warm, >>> is causing sea level to rise. Seawater is >>> beginning to >>> move onto low-lying land and to contaminate coastal >>> fresh water sources and beginning to submerge >>> coastal >>> facilities and barrier islands. Sea-level rise >>> increases the risk of damage to homes and buildings >>> from storm surges such as those that accompany >>> hurricanes. >>> >>> - Incidents of extreme weather are projected to >>> increase as a result of climate chance. Many >>> locations >>> will see a substantial increase in the number of >>> heat >>> waves they experience per year and a likely decrease >>> in episodes of severe cold. Precipitation events are >>> expected to become less frequent but more intense in >>> many areas, and droughts will be more frequent and >>> severe in areas where precipitation is projected to >>> decrease. >>> >>> >>> Additional Information: >>> Climate Impacts in the U.S.: >>> http://globalchange.gov/usimpacts >>> >>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Change Testimony (Dec. 2, >>> 2009) >>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/ >>> Lubchenco120209.pdf >>> >> Lubchenco120209.pdf> >>> >>> Tom Karl?s Climate Change Testimony (July 23, 2009) >>> http://legislative.noaa.gov/Testimony/Karl072309.pdf >>> >> Karl072309.pdf> >>> Dr. Lubchenco?s Climate Services Testimony (May >>> 5, 2009) >>> >>> http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >>> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from >>> "channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org" claiming to >>> be* Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >>> >>> >>> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> channel_islands_naturalist_corps >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >>> >>> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> channel_islands_naturalist_corps >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >>> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >>> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> channel_islands_naturalist_corps >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps From staci at savzsea.com Mon Feb 8 09:27:01 2010 From: staci at savzsea.com (staci at savzsea.com) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:27:01 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! Message-ID: <20100208102701.1f69f13e02bba7ff49a08cffd4b84343.fe3331ad8b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> With high aspirations on someday becoming bird nerd myself, I will exclaim........ The Great Backyard Bird Count is almost here! It starts this Friday, February 12, and continues through Monday, February 15. It's easy and fun to participate. Just watch birds for at least 15 minutes at any location, on one or more days of the count and report the highest number of each species you see together at one time. For more information and birding tips be sure to visit the http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ You must do your bird counts over the four days of the GBBC but you have until March 1 to enter your information through the GBBC website and to send us your entries for the GBBC photo contest. Once your bird checklist has been submitted, you can download and print out your "Great Backyard Bird Count Certificate of Participation". "This certificate acknowledges your status as a citizen scientist". "It?s also beautiful and suitable for framing". Staci From staci at savzsea.com Mon Feb 8 13:18:47 2010 From: staci at savzsea.com (staci at savzsea.com) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:18:47 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] Message-ID: <20100208141847.1f69f13e02bba7ff49a08cffd4b84343.e8c38a9ec3.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Little Catherine French from Channel Islands Harbor area writes in.... "Hey Staci, If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to Sat. Can I do a count there?" Yes. Catherine you can count birds on the islands! For more questions and answers........ http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/faqs-1/how-to-questions#where Where should I count birds? You can count birds anywhere: in your backyard, at a local park or wildlife refuge, or wherever you like to watch birds. How long should I count birds? Spend at least 15 minutes for each day and location where you'd like to count. If you can spend more than 15 minutes, you?ll get a better sense of which birds are in your area. Can I enter more than one checklist per day? Yes, you need to submit a new checklist for every new location, even if it?s on the same day. You may do a count in your own yard, for example, then move on to a city park, then to a wildlife refuge. That?s three different checklists for the same day. Remember, do NOT add up the birds of a particular species you see?only record the highest number of each species seen at any one time. What if I can?t identify some of the birds I see? Do your best to figure it out. Take a look at your state or province checklist on the GBBC web site to help narrow down the possibilities. See if you can find the bird you're looking for in a field guide. The All About Birds web site also provides photos, sounds, maps, and information about birds. For help in distinguishing similar-looking species, visit the GBBC page on tricky IDs. If you're still unable to work out a species ID, that's OK. You don?t have to report every species you see. When you enter the data on the web site, just be sure to check the box indicating that you are NOT reporting everything you saw. For Educators and kids http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/learning/for-educators -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! From: Catherine French Date: Mon, February 08, 2010 10:13 am To: staci at savzsea.com Hey Staci, If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to Sat. Can I do a count there? Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: staci at savzsea.com To: CINC Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 9:27 am Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! With high aspirations on someday becoming bird nerd myself, I willexclaim........The Great Backyard Bird Count is almost here! It starts this Friday, February 12, and continues through Monday,February 15. It's easy and fun to participate. Just watch birds for at least 15 minutes at any location, on one or moredays of the count and report the highest number of each species you seetogether at one time. For more information and birding tips be sure to visit the http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ You must do your bird counts over the four days of the GBBC but you haveuntil March 1 to enter your information through the GBBC website and tosend us your entries for the GBBC photo contest.Once your bird checklist has been submitted, you can download and printout your "Great Backyard Bird Count Certificate of Participation". "This certificate acknowledges your status as a citizen scientist"."It?s also beautiful and suitable for framing".Staci_______________________________________________Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing listChannel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.orghttp://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 5 17:13:01 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:13:01 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CINP and CINMS Ship Wrecks: The "Del Rio" Message-ID: Hi All Again Derek suggested some of you would be interested in this history I researched about the Del Rio, which sank in Frenchy's Cove, 1952. It's long! Paul _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But it gets trickier if many birds of one or more species are singing or calling. Add these birds to your tally only if you are very sure of what you have heard." For more questions and answers........ http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/faqs-1/how-to-questions#where I'm sending my answers to the rain for 3 reasons... 1 I think there might be others with the same question. 2 I think the more we talk about it maybe more people will want to do a little citizen science and count the birdies. 3 I like to share. :) Staci -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] From: Karen Telleen-Lawton Date: Mon, February 08, 2010 2:41 pm To: staci at savzsea.com OK, here's my question: Can we count a bird if we hear it but cannot see it? This is often the case up here in Rattlesnake Canyon, where the oak cover (at least the part that didn't burn!) prevents visual ID. I am an afficionado of Peterson's Birding by Ear, so I can make decent identifications that way. Thanks, Staci the Answer Lady! Karen (Telleen-Lawton) On Feb 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, staci at savzsea.com wrote: > > Little Catherine French from Channel Islands Harbor area writes in.... > "Hey Staci, If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to > Sat. Can I do a count there?" > > > Yes. Catherine you can count birds on the islands! > > For more questions and answers........ > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/faqs-1/how-to-questions#where > > > Where should I count birds? > You can count birds anywhere: in your backyard, at a local park or > wildlife refuge, or wherever you like to watch birds. > > How long should I count birds? > Spend at least 15 minutes for each day and location where you'd like to > count. If you can spend more than 15 minutes, you?ll get a better > sense of which birds are in your area. > > Can I enter more than one checklist per day? > Yes, you need to submit a new checklist for every new location, even if > it?s on the same day. You may do a count in your own yard, for > example, then move on to a city park, then to a wildlife refuge. > That?s three different checklists for the same day. Remember, do NOT > add up the birds of a particular species you see?only record the > highest number of each species seen at any one time. > > What if I can?t identify some of the birds I see? > Do your best to figure it out. Take a look at your state or province > checklist on the GBBC web site to help narrow down the possibilities. > See if you can find the bird you're looking for in a field guide. The > All About Birds web site also provides photos, sounds, maps, and > information about birds. For help in distinguishing similar-looking > species, visit the GBBC page on tricky IDs. If you're still unable to > work out a species ID, that's OK. You don?t have to report every > species you see. When you enter the data on the web site, just be sure > to check the box indicating that you are NOT reporting everything you > saw. > > For Educators and kids > > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/learning/for-educators > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > From: Catherine French > Date: Mon, February 08, 2010 10:13 am > To: staci at savzsea.com > > Hey Staci, > > If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to Sat. Can I do > a count there? > > > Sincerely, > Catherine French > cfrench1366 at aol.com > 805.815.3523 > 805.570.0432 mobile > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: staci at savzsea.com > To: CINC > Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 9:27 am > Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > > With high aspirations on someday becoming bird nerd myself, I > willexclaim........The Great Backyard Bird Count is almost here! It > starts this Friday, February 12, and continues through Monday,February > 15. It's easy and fun to participate. Just watch birds for at least 15 > minutes at any location, on one or moredays of the count and report the > highest number of each species you seetogether at one time. For more > information and birding tips be sure to visit the > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ You must do your bird counts over the > four days of the GBBC but you haveuntil March 1 to enter your > information through the GBBC website and tosend us your entries for the > GBBC photo contest.Once your bird checklist has been submitted, you can > download and printout your "Great Backyard Bird Count Certificate of > Participation". "This certificate acknowledges your status as a citizen > scientist"."It?s also beautiful and suitable for > framing".Staci_______________________________________________Channel_islands_naturalist_corps > mailing > listChannel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.orghttp://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 8 19:53:56 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:53:56 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Ship Wrecks: The "Del Rio" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CORRECTION! Paul Petrich Sr. One of the original owners of the Del Rio retired from the Navy Reserve as a Commander, not a Captain. From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:13:01 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CINP and CINMS Ship Wrecks: The "Del Rio" Hi All Again Derek suggested some of you would be interested in this history I researched about the Del Rio, which sank in Frenchy's Cove, 1952. It's long! Paul Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sections include: The DelRio sinking incident; The Del Rio Serviced the World's Most Productive Fishing Enterprise; Italian, Japanese, and Croatian Immigrants Build a Fishing Industry; The Del Rio Commissioned as a Mine Sweeper in WWII ( over 160 California fishing boats saw WWII military duty );brief bios of the Del Rio's three original owners, including the author's father; The Vital San Pedro Fishing Industry During WWII ;and the secret fishing boat patrol during WWII after local Japanese submarine attacks and a sub shelling off Goleta. Enjoy, Paul _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maria at rasnowpeak.com Tue Feb 9 10:45:41 2010 From: maria at rasnowpeak.com (Maria G. Ornelas) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:45:41 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Blue Whales Message-ID: Hi Naturalists, Listen to the story on npr: Blue Whales Croon a New Tune http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123420217 Maria G. Ornelas maria at rasnowpeak.com \ / \ / ??'?.??..><((((?>.???'?.??.???'?.?><((({?>?.???'?.?. ,. / \ / \ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carole at earthlink.net Tue Feb 9 11:53:07 2010 From: carole at earthlink.net (Carole Rosales) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:53:07 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Vanguard 02-08-10 Message-ID: <380-2201022919537484@earthlink.net> Great day but a little cool on the water. 28 passengers were treated to: one gray just outside the jetty at Port Hueneme, a small pod of(60) commonn dolphins between shore and Anacapa a small pod (20) of playful bottle nose dophins on the outside of Anacapa Captain Jason was assisted by Laurie and Tom. All guests seemed content with the trip and sightings. carole rosales Carole Rosales carole at earthlink.net 805 482 0259 (H) 805 405 1681 (C) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov Tue Feb 9 11:58:47 2010 From: Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov (Tina Johnson) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:58:47 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CAMP OCEAN PINES OPPORTUNITY-FEB 19-21 Message-ID: <4B71BE77.3090201@noaa.gov> Naturalists, as you may know, we have some great marine mammal illustrations by Pieter Folkens in our Channel Islands Naturalist Corps volunteer manual. See below for information on the conference, which is coming up quickly! ~Tina Each winter, Camp Ocean Pines in Cambria, CA likes to invite marine science leaders to come and share their thoughts, expertise, and latest discoveries with the public. We think it is important for people to learn directly from experts in forums that allow for interaction and questions. It is fun to rub shoulders with these folks and young people sometimes choose a life path as a result of such an encounter. We are honored to have Pieter Folkens visit us this February and are looking forward to sharing in his unique stories and extraordinary knowledge of the marine mammals. We hope you'll come and join us for the weekend or just an evening to take a glimpse into the lives of PACIFIC MARINE MAMMALS. Pieter Folkens Bio As a researcher, conservationist and artist, Pieter's work has literally changed the way we look at whales. For decades Pieter's beautiful and accurate renderings of marine mammals has opened the door for students, educators, biologists and the public to gain a greater understanding of the diversity and ecology of these amazing mammals. His remarkable illustrations are seen daily on the posters we hang in classrooms and in the field guides we have on our bookshelves. The accuracy and detail found in all his work comes from 35 years of field experience with animals throughout the Pacific. As co-founder of theAlaska Whale Foundation , this native Californian continues to help us better understand our ocean world by spending most of his summers observing humpbacks and orcas in their northern feeding grounds. From his early work at UC Santa Cruz teaching students field sketching techniques to creating life size marine mammal sculptures for Hollywood hits, Free Willy and Star Trek IV, all of Pieter's work has helped to create a greater appreciation and understanding of marine mammals. Camp Ocean Pines is honored to have Pieter come visit and tell us the story he has seen through observing these animals year after year. Camp Ocean Pines would love for you to join us for a weekend of marine science and field work with Mr. Folkens. The weekend includes- . Two nights stay at Camp Ocean Pines in Cambria, CA. . 5 delicious meals at Camp Ocean Pines prepared by our chef, Rick Lawson. . A whale watch tour on Saturday out of Morro Bay. . Elephant seal sketching on Sunday with Pieter Folkens at Piedras Blancas. . Two nights of presentations with wine, cheese and plenty of good discussion. . Pieter Folken's new poster for the 18th biennial international conferences of the Society of Marine Mammology. Cost for the weekend is -$225 Weekend without food and lodging - $150 Cost per Lecture -$10 Two Lectures w/ Folken's Poster - $30 Poster available at both lectures - $20 Please call or e-mail with an questions. Hope to see you there. -- Tyler Korte Outdoor Education Director Camp Ocean Pines tyler at campoceanpines.org www.campoceanpines.org (805) 927-0254 -- Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. 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You may attend either lecture at your convenience as the content is the same. The FSTS lectures provide an opportunity to continue your monthly CINC training and see your fellow volunteers. Please note that WE WILL NOT HAVE SIGN-UP SHEETS AT THE LECTURES. Calendars for whale watch, island hike, overnight trips, and outreach activities are online and scheduling is via email or over the phone. Coordinators for the CINC program may attend periodic lectures, but please contact us directly if you have any questions or concerns as we want to stay in touch with you! CALENDAR LINK: http://www.nps.gov/chis/supportyourpark/volunteer-schedules.htm --MORE INFO ABOUT THE FROM SHORE TO SEA LECTURE SERIES-- The FSTS lecture series is held monthly on the second and third *consecutive* Tuesday and Wednesday. The series is jointly sponsored by Channel Islands National Park and Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary with support from Santa Barbara Maritime Museum. The purpose of the series is to further the understanding of current research on the Channel Islands and surrounding waters. The programs are free and open to the public. Please mark lecture attendance on your time sheets! Thank you for your continued support of the CINC program. Tina -- Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. Harbor Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93035 (805) 382-6149 x 100 (805) 382-9791 Fax Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov http://channelislands.noaa.gov From dvabbott at verizon.net Tue Feb 9 17:05:30 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:05:30 -0700 Subject: [CINC] Blue Whales In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Maria, I agree with Hildebrand -- and I suggested same on RAIN a few years ago. I wish I still had that post, but perhaps RAIN can retrieve it -- and post same. All of us who have looked in the eyes of whales should be convinced of their innate intelligence -- they aren?t stupid. Reproduction is one of the most powerful driving forces in nature. Dare I call it here what it TRULY is? In some humans it?s often impossible to suppress the SEX drive -- just ask Mr. Clinton. ;-) My best, Don On 2/9/10 11:45 AM, "Maria G. Ornelas" wrote: > Hi Naturalists, > > Listen to the story on npr: Blue Whales Croon a New Tune > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123420217 > > > Maria G. Ornelas > maria at rasnowpeak.com > > \ / \ / > ??'?.??..><((((?>.???'?.??.???'?.?><((({?>?.???'?.?. ,. > / \ / \ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thusone at aol.com Tue Feb 9 17:37:56 2010 From: thusone at aol.com (thusone at aol.com) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:37:56 -0500 Subject: [CINC] LECTURE REMINDER-Feb. 9 & 10, 7PM In-Reply-To: <4B71C0F6.5040404@noaa.gov> References: <4B71C0F6.5040404@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <8CC7808CDBE7EF8-AEC-3FFF@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> What was the time on that again? 6 or 7pm? shirley My apologies for the late posting of the lecture series for tonight and tomorrow evening, my post bounced for some reason and I just noticed it. ~Tina Naturalists, don't miss Dr. John Johnson at the From Shore to Sea (FSTS) Lecture on February 9 & 10, this Tuesday at the SB Maritime Museum, or Wednesday at the Channel Islands National Park headquarters. Dr. Johnson will be speaking about his recent anthropological research at the Channel Islands, specifically its early native inhabitants. You may attend either lecture at your convenience as the content is the same. -----Original Message----- From: Tina Johnson To: CINC Rainlist Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 12:09 pm Subject: [CINC] LECTURE REMINDER-Feb. 9 & 10, 7PM My apologies for the late posting of the lecture series for tonight and tomorrow evening, my post bounced for some reason and I just noticed it. ~Tina Naturalists, don't miss Dr. John Johnson at the From Shore to Sea (FSTS) Lecture on February 9 & 10, this Tuesday at the SB Maritime Museum, or Wednesday at the Channel Islands National Park headquarters. Dr. Johnson will be speaking about his recent anthropological research at the Channel Islands, specifically its early native inhabitants. You may attend either lecture at your convenience as the content is the same. The FSTS lectures provide an opportunity to continue your monthly CINC training and see your fellow volunteers. Please note that WE WILL NOT HAVE SIGN-UP SHEETS AT THE LECTURES. Calendars for whale watch, island hike, overnight trips, and outreach activities are online and scheduling is via email or over the phone. Coordinators for the CINC program may attend periodic lectures, but please contact us directly if you have any questions or concerns as we want to stay in touch with you! CALENDAR LINK: http://www.nps.gov/chis/supportyourpark/volunteer-schedules.htm --MORE INFO ABOUT THE FROM SHORE TO SEA LECTURE SERIES-- The FSTS lecture series is held monthly on the second and third *consecutive* Tuesday and Wednesday. The series is jointly sponsored by Channel Islands National Park and Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary with support from Santa Barbara Maritime Museum. The purpose of the series is to further the understanding of current research on the Channel Islands and surrounding waters. The programs are free and open to the public. Please mark lecture attendance on your time sheets! Thank you for your continued support of the CINC program. Tina -- Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. Harbor Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93035 (805) 382-6149 x 100 (805) 382-9791 Fax Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov http://channelislands.noaa.gov _______________________________________________ Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 9 17:48:00 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:48:00 -0800 Subject: [CINC] LECTURE REMINDER-Feb. 9 & 10, 7PM In-Reply-To: <8CC7808CDBE7EF8-AEC-3FFF@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> References: <4B71C0F6.5040404@noaa.gov>, <8CC7808CDBE7EF8-AEC-3FFF@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: 7 p.m. both places. To: Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov; channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:37:56 -0500 From: thusone at aol.com Subject: Re: [CINC] LECTURE REMINDER-Feb. 9 & 10, 7PM What was the time on that again? 6 or 7pm? shirley My apologies for the late posting of the lecture series for tonight and tomorrow evening, my post bounced for some reason and I just noticed it. ~Tina Naturalists, don't miss Dr. John Johnson at the From Shore to Sea (FSTS) Lecture on February 9 & 10, this Tuesday at the SB Maritime Museum, or Wednesday at the Channel Islands National Park headquarters. Dr. Johnson will be speaking about his recent anthropological research at the Channel Islands, specifically its early native inhabitants. You may attend either lecture at your convenience as the content is the same. -----Original Message----- From: Tina Johnson To: CINC Rainlist Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 12:09 pm Subject: [CINC] LECTURE REMINDER-Feb. 9 & 10, 7PM My apologies for the late posting of the lecture series for tonight and tomorrow evening, my post bounced for some reason and I just noticed it. ~Tina Naturalists, don't miss Dr. John Johnson at the From Shore to Sea (FSTS) Lecture on February 9 & 10, this Tuesday at the SB Maritime Museum, or Wednesday at the Channel Islands National Park headquarters. Dr. Johnson will be speaking about his recent anthropological research at the Channel Islands, specifically its early native inhabitants. You may attend either lecture at your convenience as the content is the same. The FSTS lectures provide an opportunity to continue your monthly CINC training and see your fellow volunteers. Please note that WE WILL NOT HAVE SIGN-UP SHEETS AT THE LECTURES. Calendars for whale watch, island hike, overnight trips, and outreach activities are online and scheduling is via email or over the phone. Coordinators for the CINC program may attend periodic lectures, but please contact us directly if you have any questions or concerns as we want to stay in touch with you! CALENDAR LINK: http://www.nps.gov/chis/supportyourpark/volunteer-schedules.htm --MORE INFO ABOUT THE FROM SHORE TO SEA LECTURE SERIES-- The FSTS lecture series is held monthly on the second and third *consecutive* Tuesday and Wednesday. The series is jointly sponsored by Channel Islands National Park and Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary with support from Santa Barbara Maritime Museum. The purpose of the series is to further the understanding of current research on the Channel Islands and surrounding waters. The programs are free and open to the public. Please mark lecture attendance on your time sheets! Thank you for your continued support of the CINC program. 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URL: From dvabbott at verizon.net Tue Feb 9 17:49:17 2010 From: dvabbott at verizon.net (Don Abbott) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:49:17 -0700 Subject: [CINC] FW: Climate Literacy Key Statements In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To: RAIN (an apology -- or at least some rational for this post) On 2/7/10 I sent the following response to Bill?s post via RAIN. From: Don Abbott Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:52:44 -0700 To: "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" , , Dick Bellman Conversation: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements Bill, Please! Let us keep RAIN free of politics. I shall counter your arguments privately -- not on RAIN. My best, Don However, since sending the above I?ve received many responses that have incorporated Bill?s post which forces me to respond via RAIN. I sincerely hope this will END further discussions on this topic here. Hi Bill, Since my private response to your email I keep running across your RAIN post -- which is not your fault anymore than mine. However, I do feel forced to respond similarly -- and in the hope that this will END this discussion on RAIN. Please allow me to address each of your arguments [in brackets] within your text below. On 2/7/10 8:30 AM, "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" wrote: *Don and Dick "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax." This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. [Yes, we DO need to be suspicious of those on BOTH sides of this issue. However, why ban scientific debate? Moreover, why are those that ban debate only in the HCGW crowd? What excuse do you give for banning debate? Please wake-up before we loose ALL freedoms. Though unproven, HCGW has been adopted by liberal politicians (socialists) as a means of bring about social changes that otherwise would never be possible, and as a result, our government grows like a cancer. Mr. Gore?s net worth has gone from $2M to $200M+ since he left office. ?Carbon Credits? are liken to ?Indulgences?.] Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in science books. [Just the opposite is true. Creationist refused to listen to any and all scientific debate ?- just like the HCGW crowd. Creationism (like HCGW) is/was based on FAITH vs. reason. Show me a creationist and I?ll show you someone willing to believe in HCGW. Sadly, HCGW has become like a religion to many. It has been hawked to the innocent masses and many have taken up the faith -- HONEST believers. Like creationist, the masses are incapable of scientific reasoning and thus any rational (scientific) thought on this issue.] They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. [EXACTLY! Now at last you understand. Respectfully I say, ?Your logic was twisted and you have proved my point.?] The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. [Please! ANY industry? I assume you?re concerned about carbon footprints. At least be aware that every living animal adds a tiny bit of heat and carbon into our atmosphere and my analyses (with references) provides some insight into those amounts. It is important to understand the amounts in question before one offers solutions ?- let alone points fingers at the cause of our ills (ILLS so called by Mr. Gore). It comes down to what is and is not SIGNIFICANT. Ants cause global warming too. There is simply NO excuse for touting HCGW without open scientific debate on the subject -- and the honest jury is still out. Again, please be reminded that the key word is SIGNIFICANT.] The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people of the planet. [Largest hoax? That may be a hoax too, but it isn?t in my opinion nearly as large as HCGW.] I DO think nuclear and other technologies should be used whenever possible to improve our air quality too. I?ve worked in the nuclear industry and I hope that doesn?t make me prejudice. IMV [?] nothing is further from the truth. There would be a significant economic benefit. [I agree!] For example, at a time in the not to distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc. The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. [You and I concur on this issue too.] If all carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency to convert to other sources. [Bill, I think I know what you were attempting to convey, but what you actually wrote is not realistic. W/o carbon based fuels tomorrow? Most people in developed countries would be dead in two weeks. On the other hand, I agree that new technologies MUST win the day over time eventually. Otherwise we will not survive as a nation let alone in a world worth living in.] Here is a link to a site that collects stories from everywhere that should help thinking people realize that the HCGW debate is skating on thin ice. This site was recently recommended to me by another CINC Naturalist and I plan to spend some time there soon. Heck, I may even volunteer. ;-) http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Bill My best, Don On 2/7/10 11:46 AM, "Catherine French" wrote: > Well said, Sabine. > > Sincerely, > Catherine French > cfrench1366 at aol.com > 805.815.3523 > 805.570.0432 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC) > To: Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org; dvabbott at verizon.net; > dbellman at dock.net > Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 7:30 am > Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements > > *Don and Dick > > "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused > Global Warming hoax." > > This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including > all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, > real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in > convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and > not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. Your arguments regarding > "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their > arguments are not included in science books. They also argue that there is > n"no proof" of evolution. The truth of the matter is that if there is > significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and > the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or > another. The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is > that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people > of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would be a > significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to distant > past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer > contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the > health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge > economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc.). The opposite of course > occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the > challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. If all > carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the > biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly > and with urgency to convert to other sources. > Bill > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nymeetsca at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 17:56:32 2010 From: nymeetsca at gmail.com (HAL ALTMAN) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:56:32 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Blue Whales In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don, About your reference to President Clinton, you seem to find a way to bring politics into our collegial non-partisan group. I sense that you're well-intended, but please...give it a rest. HAL ALTMAN On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Don Abbott wrote: > Thanks Maria, > > I agree with Hildebrand -- and I suggested same on RAIN a few years ago. > I wish I still had that post, but perhaps RAIN can retrieve it -- and post > same. > > All of us who have looked in the eyes of whales should be convinced of > their innate intelligence -- they aren?t stupid. > > Reproduction is one of the most powerful driving forces in nature. > Dare I call it here what it TRULY is? In some humans it?s often impossible > to suppress the SEX drive -- just ask Mr. Clinton. ;-) > > My best, > Don > > > > On 2/9/10 11:45 AM, "Maria G. Ornelas" wrote: > > Hi Naturalists, > > Listen to the story on npr: Blue Whales Croon a New Tune > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123420217 > > > Maria G. 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URL: From diver24 at cox.net Tue Feb 9 20:38:03 2010 From: diver24 at cox.net (Toni Bailey) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:38:03 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] In-Reply-To: <20100208141847.1f69f13e02bba7ff49a08cffd4b84343.e8c38a9ec3.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20100208141847.1f69f13e02bba7ff49a08cffd4b84343.e8c38a9ec3.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <6C08F21425C8460786457241A5AFD40A@OwnerPC> We did the backyard birdcount last year.....you can count birds anywhere as long as you count for at least 15 minutes. I would count birds out at the islands if I were there! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] > > Little Catherine French from Channel Islands Harbor area writes in.... > "Hey Staci, If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to > Sat. Can I do a count there?" > > > Yes. Catherine you can count birds on the islands! > > For more questions and answers........ > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/faqs-1/how-to-questions#where > > > Where should I count birds? > You can count birds anywhere: in your backyard, at a local park or > wildlife refuge, or wherever you like to watch birds. > > How long should I count birds? > Spend at least 15 minutes for each day and location where you'd like to > count. If you can spend more than 15 minutes, you?ll get a better > sense of which birds are in your area. > > Can I enter more than one checklist per day? > Yes, you need to submit a new checklist for every new location, even if > it?s on the same day. You may do a count in your own yard, for > example, then move on to a city park, then to a wildlife refuge. > That?s three different checklists for the same day. Remember, do NOT > add up the birds of a particular species you see?only record the > highest number of each species seen at any one time. > > What if I can?t identify some of the birds I see? > Do your best to figure it out. Take a look at your state or province > checklist on the GBBC web site to help narrow down the possibilities. > See if you can find the bird you're looking for in a field guide. The > All About Birds web site also provides photos, sounds, maps, and > information about birds. For help in distinguishing similar-looking > species, visit the GBBC page on tricky IDs. If you're still unable to > work out a species ID, that's OK. You don?t have to report every > species you see. When you enter the data on the web site, just be sure > to check the box indicating that you are NOT reporting everything you > saw. > > For Educators and kids > > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/learning/for-educators > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > From: Catherine French > Date: Mon, February 08, 2010 10:13 am > To: staci at savzsea.com > > Hey Staci, > > If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to Sat. Can I do > a count there? > > > Sincerely, > Catherine French > cfrench1366 at aol.com > 805.815.3523 > 805.570.0432 mobile > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: staci at savzsea.com > To: CINC > Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 9:27 am > Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > > With high aspirations on someday becoming bird nerd myself, I > willexclaim........The Great Backyard Bird Count is almost here! It > starts this Friday, February 12, and continues through Monday,February > 15. It's easy and fun to participate. Just watch birds for at least 15 > minutes at any location, on one or moredays of the count and report the > highest number of each species you seetogether at one time. For more > information and birding tips be sure to visit the > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ You must do your bird counts over the > four days of the GBBC but you haveuntil March 1 to enter your > information through the GBBC website and tosend us your entries for the > GBBC photo contest.Once your bird checklist has been submitted, you can > download and printout your "Great Backyard Bird Count Certificate of > Participation". "This certificate acknowledges your status as a citizen > scientist"."It?s also beautiful and suitable for > framing".Staci_______________________________________________Channel_islands_naturalist_corps > mailing > listChannel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.orghttp://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > From bart at vnusinfo.com Tue Feb 9 21:21:10 2010 From: bart at vnusinfo.com (bart at vnusinfo.com) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:21:10 -0500 Subject: [CINC] FW: Climate Literacy Key Statements Message-ID: <20100210002110.quozky8zcresok8w@mail.vnusinfo.com> Will you guys please stuff a sock in it. 95% of us could care less about how much you think you know! Bart Quoting Don Abbott : To: RAIN (an apology -- or at least some rational for this post) On 2/7/10 I sent the following response to Bill?s post via RAIN. From: Don Abbott Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:52:44 -0700 To: "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" , , Dick Bellman Conversation: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements Bill, Please! Let us keep RAIN free of politics. I shall counter your arguments privately -- not on RAIN. My best, Don However, since sending the above I?ve received many responses that have incorporated Bill?s post which forces me to respond via RAIN. I sincerely hope this will END further discussions on this topic here. Hi Bill, Since my private response to your email I keep running across your RAIN post -- which is not your fault anymore than mine. However, I do feel forced to respond similarly -- and in the hope that this will END this discussion on RAIN. Please allow me to address each of your arguments [in brackets] within your text below. On 2/7/10 8:30 AM, "William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC)" wrote: *Don and Dick "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax." This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. [Yes, we DO need to be suspicious of those on BOTH sides of this issue. However, why ban scientific debate? Moreover, why are those that ban debate only in the HCGW crowd? What excuse do you give for banning debate? Please wake-up before we loose ALL freedoms. Though unproven, HCGW has been adopted by liberal politicians (socialists) as a means of bring about social changes that otherwise would never be possible, and as a result, our government grows like a cancer. Mr. Gore?s net worth has gone from $2M to $200M+ since he left office. ?Carbon Credits? are liken to ?Indulgences?.] Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in science books. [Just the opposite is true. Creationist refused to listen to any and all scientific debate ?- just like the HCGW crowd. Creationism (like HCGW) is/was based on FAITH vs. reason. Show me a creationist and I?ll show you someone willing to believe in HCGW. Sadly, HCGW has become like a religion to many. It has been hawked to the innocent masses and many have taken up the faith -- HONEST believers. Like creationist, the masses are incapable of scientific reasoning and thus any rational (scientific) thought on this issue.] They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. [EXACTLY! Now at last you understand. Respectfully I say, ?Your logic was twisted and you have proved my point.?] The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. [Please! ANY industry? I assume you?re concerned about carbon footprints. At least be aware that every living animal adds a tiny bit of heat and carbon into our atmosphere and my analyses (with references) provides some insight into those amounts. It is important to understand the amounts in question before one offers solutions ?- let alone points fingers at the cause of our ills (ILLS so called by Mr. Gore). It comes down to what is and is not SIGNIFICANT. Ants cause global warming too. There is simply NO excuse for touting HCGW without open scientific debate on the subject -- and the honest jury is still out. Again, please be reminded that the key word is SIGNIFICANT.] The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people of the planet. [Largest hoax? That may be a hoax too, but it isn?t in my opinion nearly as large as HCGW.] I DO think nuclear and other technologies should be used whenever possible to improve our air quality too. I?ve worked in the nuclear industry and I hope that doesn?t make me prejudice. IMV [?] nothing is further from the truth. There would be a significant economic benefit. [I agree!] For example, at a time in the not to distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc. The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. [You and I concur on this issue too.] If all carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency to convert to other sources. [Bill, I think I know what you were attempting to convey, but what you actually wrote is not realistic. W/o carbon based fuels tomorrow? Most people in developed countries would be dead in two weeks. On the other hand, I agree that new technologies MUST win the day over time eventually. Otherwise we will not survive as a nation let alone in a world worth living in.] Here is a link to a site that collects stories from everywhere that should help thinking people realize that the HCGW debate is skating on thin ice. This site was recently recommended to me by another CINC Naturalist and I plan to spend some time there soon. Heck, I may even volunteer. ;-) http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Bill My best, Don On 2/7/10 11:46 AM, "Catherine French" wrote: Well said, Sabine. Sincerely, cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: William Strojny (ICRIS, LLC) To: Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org; dvabbott at verizon.net; dbellman at dock.net Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 7:30 am Subject: Re: [CINC] Climate Literacy Key Statements *Don and Dick "Follow the money trail and see who reaps the benefits of this Human Caused Global Warming hoax." This is easy. The carbon based energy industry and its subsidiaries (including all the big oil and coal producers, auto manufactures, insurence companys, real estate developers, and on and on), all have a huge vested interest in convincing the public that their activities are not bad for human health and not bad for the the planet and life as we know it. Your arguments regarding "banning scientists" are similar to the ones made by creationists why their arguments are not included in science books. They also argue that there is n"no proof" of evolution. The truth of the matter is that if there is significant evidence that if ANY industry adversely effecting human health and the health of the planet then that activity should be curtailed one way or another. The largest hoax is the one the carbon based industry proffers is that changing to other sources of energy will be at a huge cost to the people of the planet. IMV nothing is further from the truth. There would be a significant economic benefit. For example, at a time in the not to distant past when when the same culprits were informed that gasoline could no longer contain lead because of the evidence that it was significantly effecting the health of children, they put up the same smoke screens (no proof, huge economic impact, cars would not run, etc. etc.). The opposite of course occurred. Yes, cars dieseled, but people bought new ones, science met the challenges, and the economy benefited as did the health of the planet. If all carbon based fuels disapeared from the planet tomorrow, it would lead to the biggest economic boom in history as true science, politics, etc. moved quickly and with urgency to convert to other sources. 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Carolyn --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Toni Bailey wrote: From: Toni Bailey Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] To: staci at savzsea.com, channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:38 PM We did the backyard birdcount last year.....you can count birds anywhere as long as you count for at least 15 minutes.? I would count birds out at the islands if I were there! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds!] > > Little Catherine French from Channel Islands Harbor area writes in.... > "Hey Staci, If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to > Sat. Can I do a count there?" > > > Yes. Catherine you can count birds on the islands! > > For more questions and answers........ > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/faqs-1/how-to-questions#where > > > Where should I count birds? > You can count birds anywhere: in your backyard, at a local park or > wildlife refuge, or wherever you like to watch birds. > > How long should I count birds? > Spend at least 15 minutes for each day and location where you'd like to > count. If you can spend more than 15 minutes, you?ll get a better > sense of which birds are in your area. > > Can I enter more than one checklist per day? > Yes, you need to submit a new checklist for every new location, even if > it?s on the same day. You may do a count in your own yard, for > example, then move on to a city park, then to a wildlife refuge. > That?s three different checklists for the same day. Remember, do NOT > add up the birds of a particular species you see?only record the > highest number of each species seen at any one time. > > What if I can?t identify some of the birds I see? > Do your best to figure it out. Take a look at your state or province > checklist on the GBBC web site to help narrow down the possibilities. > See if you can find the bird you're looking for in a field guide. The > All About Birds web site also provides photos, sounds, maps, and > information about birds. For help in distinguishing similar-looking > species, visit the GBBC page on tricky IDs. If you're still unable to > work out a species ID, that's OK. You don?t have to report every > species you see. When you enter the data on the web site, just be sure > to check the box indicating that you are NOT reporting everything you > saw. > > For Educators and kids > > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/learning/for-educators > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > From: Catherine French > Date: Mon, February 08, 2010 10:13 am > To: staci at savzsea.com > > Hey Staci, > > If the weather holds, I am on an overnight at ESCI Fri. to Sat. Can I do > a count there? > > > Sincerely, > Catherine French > cfrench1366 at aol.com > 805.815.3523 > 805.570.0432 mobile > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: staci at savzsea.com > To: CINC > Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 9:27 am > Subject: [CINC] Calling all bird nerds! > > With high aspirations on someday becoming bird nerd myself, I > willexclaim........The Great Backyard Bird Count is almost here! It > starts this Friday, February 12, and continues through Monday,February > 15. It's easy and fun to participate. Just watch birds for at least 15 > minutes at any location, on one or moredays of the count and report the > highest number of each species you seetogether at one time. For more > information and birding tips be sure to visit the > http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ You must do your bird counts over the > four days of the GBBC but you haveuntil March 1 to enter your > information through the GBBC website and tosend us your entries for the > GBBC photo contest.Once your bird checklist has been submitted, you can > download and printout your "Great Backyard Bird Count Certificate of > Participation". 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The trip will depart from the NPS boat dock at 8:30 am sharp so please arrive by 8:00 am to check in. Boat should return to Ventura between 4 and 5 pm. Please check the Island Packers pre recorded message (805-642-1393) on the morning of departure after 5:30 am. If they cancel, the park boat will cancel. Please bring food, water, and gloves if you have them. Due to limited passenger space on our boat, only 27 spaces are available for this trip. Sign ups are first come, first served. Please contact me via email if you would like to attend. Everyone who signs up for this trip must read the attached position description and then sign yet another agreement form, as well as another form stating that hantavirus information has been read. These forms may be mailed to me in advance or brought on the day of departure. However, you will not be allowed to go on the trip without signing and returning these forms. Digital signatures are not accepted at this time. Here are some instructions for processing the attached files (IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE REQUEST THESE FILES -- they are not attached to this reminder post). POSITION DESCRIPTION: Please read pd #523. VIP AGREEMENT FORM: Please also print out the "Volunteer Agreement Form for worker" and fill out the first page and sign and date the second page. Completely fill in (PLEASE PRINT) the bottom 2 rows of the 1st box. fill So not fill in the 2nd box as this is for minors. Fill in the third box with an emergency contact -- names and phone numbers are sufficient. Sign and date the top of the second page. Return to me via mail or on the day of departure. HANTAVIRUS FORM: Sign and date the first page on the "Hantavirus Packet 2009" after having read the rest of the information. Return to only the first page to me via mail or on the day of departure. Thank you for helping to erradicate iceplant from Anacapa Island and restore the native habitat there. Please let me know if you have any questions. Derek Lohuis Channel Islands National Park 1901 Spinnaker Dr. Ventura, CA 93001 805-658-5736 (See attached file: Hantavirus Certification of Receipt & Info Packet.pdf) (See attached file: # 523 AI iceplant removal worker.pdf)(See attached file: VIP Agreement Form for Worker.pdf) -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Wed Feb 10 16:14:56 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:14:56 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Different genus for California's Coreopsis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Here is the citation on the placement of all of California's native > Coreopsis into the genus Leptosyne, which will appear in the second edition > of the Jepson Manual. It will likely be incorporated into the Flora of > North America as well. > Larry > > Leptosyne gigantea Kellogg > ASTERACEAE > > Current Jepson Flora Project Synonyms Coreopsis gigantea (Kellogg) H.M. > Hall > Initial Editorial Analysis 2 Mar 2007 > Source of Report for California Correspondence 1 > Correspondence and Comments Subsequent to Initial Analysis > Correspondence 1 1 Mar 2007 e-mail from David J. Keil, including comments > on numerous genera to be submitted by Keil for The Jepson Manual [Ed. > 2] > see Comment 1 > Editorial Comments 1 Correspondence 1 indicates that for The Jepson Manual > [Ed. 2] David J. Keil (Author of genus for The Jepson Manual [Ed. 2]) > is > splitting Leptosyne from Coreopsis, stating that, according to Dan > Crawford, the three California Coreopsis sections form a monophyletic > group > [to be included in Leptosyne] that is not in the same clade as the > type of > Coreopsis (that clade including the three escaped ornamental species > of > Coreopsis), and providing the following synonymy: Leptosyne bigelovii > A. > Gray for Coreopsis bigelovii (A. Gray) H.M. Hall; Leptosyne californica > Nutt. for Coreopsis californica (Nutt.) H. Sharsm.; Leptosyne calliopsidea > (DC.) A. Gray for Coreopsis calliopsidea (DC.) A. Gray; Leptosyne douglasii > DC. for Coreopsis douglasii (DC.) H.M. Hall; Leptosyne gigantea > Kellogg for > Coreopsis gigantea (Kellogg) H.M. Hall; Leptosyne hamiltonii Elmer for > Coreopsis hamiltonii (Elmer) H. Sharsm.; Leptosyne maritima (Nutt.) > A. Gray > for Coreopsis maritima (Nutt.) Hook. f.; and Leptosyne stillmanii A. > Gray > for Coreopsis stillmanii (A. Gray) S.F. Blake. > Editorial Summary and Current Status > Editorial Summary addition, different genus in The Jepson Manual [Ed. > 2] > Current Status JFP-1, accepted name for taxon native to CA > Current Status Authority The Jepson Manual [Ed. 2] > Current Status Date 2 Mar 2007 > List of names for this Current Status category > List of ICPN names in Leptosyne > List of names from ICPN, Hrusa's Crosswalk, and Jepson Flora in Leptosyne > Resources of the Jepson Flora Project: External links: > Index to California Plant Names (ICPN) > No specimens filed under this name > Search this site in Google for other references > Cal Photos images > > Common names > IPNI > Tropicos Taxonomic information from the Missouri Botanical Garden > KBD Kew Bibliographic Database > Plants Database LEGI2 > BONAP county distribution maps > GBIF > > Google Scholar > Google Books > > FEE > Unabridged note: Coreopsis, as recognized in TJM1, is polyphyletic. Escaped > orn spp. in CA all belong to a clade from c&e N.Am incl the type sp. > of > Coreopsis, C. lanceolata. Native CA spp. formerly in Coreopsis form a > separate clade, treated here as Leptosyne. Coreopsis wrightii H.M. Parker > ex E.B. Sm. not naturalized in CA > > From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Wed Feb 10 17:10:05 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:10:05 -0800 Subject: [CINC] SB City College Lecture on Exiled Mammoths of Channel Islands Message-ID: http://www.sbcc.edu/facultyrecognition/ Annual Faculty Lecturer Santa Barbara City College's Highest Honor Announcing the 2009-10 Faculty Lecturer of the Year Dr. Robert Gray Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences Lecture Title: Exiled Mammoths of the Channel Islands and Saber Tooth Cats of Rancho La Brea: The Last Great Extinction Thursday, March 11, 2010, 2:30 pm Sports Pavilion, SBCC East Campus To view all previous lectures Visit the Faculty Lecture Committee's web site. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maria at rasnowpeak.com Thu Feb 11 09:18:11 2010 From: maria at rasnowpeak.com (Maria G. Ornelas) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:18:11 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Whale-watching IP 2/10 Message-ID: Hi Naturalists, a.m. trip: I Gray Whale ~ 200 California Sea Lions many birds: Brown Pelicans, Western Gulls, Surf Scooders, Western Grebes 89 passengers Staff: Cptn. Lee & Matt. Laurie and Paige in galley p.m. trip: 2 Grays ~ 200 California Sea Lions Brown Pelicans, Western Gulls, Surf Scooders, Western Grebes 83 passengers We had lovely weather all day . Everyone was in high spirits. We left Ventura Harbor with a boat full of energetic kids from 2 elementary schools: Guadalupe and Fillmore Christian Academy. We headed for East Anacapa Is. and encountered a small pod of Common Dolphins. We kept on seeing a few Commons here and there, but no whales. This was a day for birds. They were everywhere. As we went along I suggested to the teacher to gather the kids in a small group so that I could talk to them about the amazing migration story of the Gray whale. I was able to engage the kids for about 7 minutes, but for the most part, they just wanted to enjoy the experience of being on a large, bouncy boat, with their peers. And that was perfectly OK. Being aware of what the passengers want is what interpretation is all about. Cptn. Lee spotted a Gray around Arch Roc. It was a shy individual that we lost track of after it dove. Being in this area was a real treat. The Sea Lions were happily sunning themselves and "barking away" The passengers were absolutely delighted. We encountered a larger pod of Commons on our way back. This time the pod was tighter and again the children were thrilled. The passengers for the p.m. trip were people from China, Germany, Belgium, South Carolina, and others. They were participating in local conferences on aging and lipid research, and many were very interested to hear about the whales. This trip was as spectacular as the morning one. This time, Ctpn. Lee headed for the gap between Anacapa and SCI were we spotted 2 Grays. The whales kept their distance, but rewarded us with a couple of flukes. Again we kept on seeing Common Dolphins in small pods. We went through the gap and around Anacapa towards Arch Rock. The passengers, who had been quite subdued, just enjoying being out in the water, were very animated to see/hear the Sea Lions, and took many photos. Finally, as we headed back to harbor, we delighted on seeing the Pelicans feeding. What precious day!!! Maria G. Ornelas maria at rasnowpeak.com \ / \ / ??'?.??..><((((?>.???'?.??.???'?.?><((({?>?.???'?.?. ,. / \ / \ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I posted my report to RAIN this morning in a hurry before leaving my house, and completely forgot to mention that Tom Flor was the 2nd Naturalist on IP. My apologies Tom, and thank you for filling the Sighting Report and taking them to the office! Maria G. Ornelas maria at rasnowpeak.com \ / \ / ??'?.??..><((((?>.???'?.??.???'?.?><((({?>?.???'?.?. ,. / \ / \ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j_bar_j at hotmail.com Fri Feb 12 11:54:10 2010 From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel E. Justin) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:54:10 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Top 10 Reasons to Sign-up for Anacapa Iceplant Removal... Message-ID: Fellow CINCers, I can't believe there are still openings for the March 10th Anacapa iceplant removal trip. Here's my top 10 reasons to send Derek an email to sign-up right now: 10. The gulls aren't there yet. 9. Without more people we won't be able to finish East Anacapa that day. 8. A free boat ride on the CINP boat. 7. What else are you doing on a Wednesday? Work? (A bad day on AI beats a good day at work) 6. Camaraderie amongst fellow CINCers. 5. Whales are in the channel. 4. Exercise, exercise, exercise. 3. Help Russell Galipeau achieve his goal of having AI iceplant free by 2016 (100th anniversary of the NPS). 2. Think about how good you'll feel after a good day's work in one of the most beautiful places on earth. 1. The flowers on Anacapa in March after all these rains we've had should be SPECTACULAR. Joel... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From staci at savzsea.com Fri Feb 12 12:20:37 2010 From: staci at savzsea.com (Staci Kaye-Carr) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:20:37 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Top 10 Reasons to Sign-up for Anacapa Iceplant Removal... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35C8EDC4-2560-4C87-8D77-F6C3868742D9@savzsea.com> Love your "Top 10 Reasons" list. One could say you're pushing for plant pullers... I for one will be attending this oh so exciting eradication event! Staci On Feb 12, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Joel E. Justin wrote: > Fellow CINCers, > > I can't believe there are still openings for the March 10th Anacapa > iceplant removal trip. Here's my top 10 reasons to send Derek an > email to sign-up right now: > > 10. The gulls aren't there yet. > 9. Without more people we won't be able to finish East Anacapa that > day. > 8. A free boat ride on the CINP boat. > 7. What else are you doing on a Wednesday? Work? (A bad day on AI > beats a good day at work) > 6. Camaraderie amongst fellow CINCers. > 5. Whales are in the channel. > 4. Exercise, exercise, exercise. > 3. Help Russell Galipeau achieve his goal of having AI iceplant > free by 2016 (100th anniversary of the NPS). > 2. Think about how good you'll feel after a good day's work in one > of the most beautiful places on earth. > 1. The flowers on Anacapa in March after all these rains we've had > should be SPECTACULAR. > > Joel... > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfrench1366 at aol.com Fri Feb 12 17:16:34 2010 From: cfrench1366 at aol.com (Catherine French) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:16:34 -0500 Subject: [CINC] Top 10 Reasons to Sign-up for Anacapa Iceplant Removal... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC7A6150FC1E82-7398-6E79@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> That was great, Joel. There is no reason not to go to Anacapa, the more of us the faster the job will be done and the easier. So everybody, get going and sign up. The coreopsis in full bloom should be enough to get you in gear, it will be fun!!! Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Joel E. Justin To: CINC Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 11:54 am Subject: [CINC] Top 10 Reasons to Sign-up for Anacapa Iceplant Removal... Fellow CINCers, I can't believe there are still openings for the March 10th Anacapa iceplant removal trip. Here's my top 10 reasons to send Derek an email to sign-up right now: 10. The gulls aren't there yet. 9. Without more people we won't be able to finish East Anacapa that day. 8. A free boat ride on the CINP boat. 7. What else are you doing on a Wednesday? Work? (A bad day on AI beats a good day at work) 6. Camaraderie amongst fellow CINCers. 5. Whales are in the channel. 4. Exercise, exercise, exercise. 3. Help Russell Galipeau achieve his goal of having AI iceplant free by 2016 (100th anniversary of the NPS). 2. Think about how good you'll feel after a good day's work in one of the most beautiful places on earth. 1. The flowers on Anacapa in March after all these rains we've had should be SPECTACULAR. Joel... = _______________________________________________ hannel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list hannel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org ttp://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camccleskey at yahoo.com Fri Feb 12 18:23:29 2010 From: camccleskey at yahoo.com (Carolyn McCleskey) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:23:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] 3/10 Anacapa work party Message-ID: <656345.30688.qm@web33401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Who wouldn't volunteer after all those encouraging ? words. ?I'll go too. ?Who wants to carpool from S.B. ?? ?Carolyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A small group of 8 and myself were the only ones on Eastern Anacapa all day. The kids were all at Frenchy's. There was one sick pelican on the landing above the pier. Sadly, we saw probably the same one floating dead in the cave when boarding the boat. The island was beautiful with Coreopsis beginning to bloom. Wild cucumber was growing everywhere and blooming. Death Camus was blooming in many places. The Western gulls were staking out their nesting sites and getting all upset when a red- tailed hawk came by. I spotted 2 Say's Phoebes, 2 house wrens, a Kestrel and a song sparrow. All of us appreciated the isolation and beauty of the island. On the way back Capt. Anthony found 2 Gray whales on their way north in mid-channel. Don Gillies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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PM Trip: 20 Commons 15-20 Off-shore Bottlenose 3 Humpbacks 80 passengers Crew: Capt. Jason, Jacob & Thomas The trip started off a bit interesting and awkward, had a pelican perch on a the back railing of the boat as we left the harbor. I recognized the look in its eyes, it was begging for food and turned out to have fishing line with a hook entangled on its foot. I made sure the passengers didn't approach it, and provided a little education on the plight of the pelicans as of late. It was a bit difficult for me personally, as I am now a volunteer for the seabird rehab up in Santa Barbara and felt a bit helpless that I couldn't come to the aid of our temporary passenger. As we picked up speed he took flight, but wanted to land on the boat again, but couldn't catch up to us. Wishing the pellie a a speedy recovery. We found the Humpbacks in the Anacapa gap. They seemed to be busy feeding, can't blame them, been a long trip from Costa Rica. 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The dolphins and sea lions were chasing the bait fish and the whales were chasing the dolphins. We watched for close to an hour before we continued toward the SCI/SRI gap. About a half mile shy of SCI we saw a long group of about 1000 common dolphins looking for / chasing the fish toward the gap. Then off to the right was another spout, then 2 and then 3 more humpback whales in the area. We headed toward 1 and it dove but after 7+ minutes we moved on. A bit later we saw 2 more and then 3 more and as they say we were mugged - we had 3 to the left and 2 to the right. We stopped and watched all the action for as long as possible (we were already running late) before heading toward Painted Cave. We got some really great looks and lots of tail but no pecs or breaching. Unlike most days when it tends to be calmer next to the island, today it was very frothy, surgy , with swells and waves at the island. We could not get closer than 150 yards to the island. The whirlpool surge took its toll on a 1/3 of the boat passengers but the other 2/3 was ecstatic to see so much. On the way home we saw 3 more spouts in the distance where we were 2 hours prior - Mat said one was a gray and the other 2 were probably the humpbacks we saw in the same area earlier. Official total for the day: 10 Humpbacks 1 Gray 1000+ Common Dolphins Several Sea Lions Lots of the usual sea birds and a large group of Black-vented Shearwaters. Fellow CINCer Eileen Avery was on board with a Gray Whales Count group of volunteers. Channel Islands Marine & Wildlife Institute with a crew of 5 were on board to release a young sea lion that has only been held captive since Thursday due to an entanglement. We released the little girl next to lots of her friends at SCI. She jumped right in and swam away with a final look back at the boat saying "thanks for helping out the past few days". Kevin Bailey Morgan Coffey Scott Robertson on PID Capt. 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Some possible reasons for so many stranded and emaciated brown pelicans on our shores are explained. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-storm-pelicans,0,7276990.story Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klez18 at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 14 21:52:08 2010 From: klez18 at sbcglobal.net (Marty Flam) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:52:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Mass strandings Message-ID: <947785.97053.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dear Fellow Naturalists, Is it correct to say none of this behavior has ever occured here? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_re_as/as_new_zealand_whales_strand Marty From kensword at cox.net Sun Feb 14 23:36:34 2010 From: kensword at cox.net (Kenneth A. Tatro) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:36:34 -0800 Subject: [CINC] IPCO Islander AM PM Sat 13Feb10 Message-ID: HI folks: About 1000 Common Dolphins(Across fore Pods) 2 Grays 4 Humpbacks (maybe same two AM & PM = 4 count) 2 Full boat runs Am run came out on smooth waters with easy long length 4'-5' swells. Out to the middle of the channel as we are into the Gray transition period with south bound stragglers and north bound early runners traversing the through. We turned east to head into the north bounders. On the way out a light pod of commons delighted the folks, with many locals ( southern California) on their first ever WW. A coupe of California Sea Lions, fins in the air, thermal regulating. Many of the folks thought that pretty cleaver. Still no blows, with seas just right for sighting, the commons were a nice relief, but they are not of the great whale kind. Well into the run call from the Condor came that they had two Humpbacks (maybe the two seen a couple of days ago) mid channel off of Santa Barbara a good bit. About face, a 30 minute run and a thanks to Condor for holding position for us as they broke for the SCI-SRI Gap and Painted Cave on sighting our approach. The Humpbacks had just sounded on regular five minute dives, as we came up on position. Right on schedule and THAR SHE BLOWS!!! The two Humpbacks surfaced showing their trademark hump and gave a coupe of nice flukes for the cameras. A few more cycles, ... they were gone and we were out of time and heading home, but with whales on the sighting sheet. With the winds picking up we surfed into the harbor on some fairly big swells. The PM run started out with some big swells right out of the harbor, white caps showing more and more as the off shore winds had picked up significantly. With increasing seas and the distance to our last sighting of the Humpbacks, Captain Dave headed straight for the AI-SCI gap to round AI into its wind shadow. Good chance of sighting south bound Grays. Sure enough, a pair of grays showed, but heading north. They were a bit distant, yet we could tell they we of good size, yet most likely juveniles. Even though they seemingly were "headed" very slowly, north, in the grays south bound lane, it was more like they were trying to figure it out as to which direction they should be going. But we gradually closed the gap between them and us as we came up on them. the offered some nice flukes to the delight of the folks o board. Another assist, this time from family, as the Vanguard said they had two Humpbacks more around the back of AI. In the AI-SCI gap with the two grays, we soon broke for the Humpbacks as the Vanguard broke off for home. Sure enough there they were, two Humpbacks. With the time we had returning to port for the AM run and coming back out, for the PM run, finding and spending good time with the two Grays, these two Humpbacks could easily be the same two we had sighed center channel off of Santa Barbara on the AM run. Again, with many locals on board, and first timers, to boot, these folks not only saw one species of whale, but two. Add that to the California Brown Pelican putting on its show of diving for their food. Only the three species of the Brown Pelican dive for its food, all the rest surface fish). It was one of the nicer days out on the water Thanks to Captains Dave and Steve, Zac and Dini(sp?) of the Islander and my good colleague, fellow Naturalist, Dick Bellman a good day was had by all. 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Thanks Scott From mommasisa at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 15:16:47 2010 From: mommasisa at gmail.com (Lisa Anderson) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:16:47 -0800 Subject: [CINC] SB whale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f69dbb41002151516i4b381bc6kc7ee7a1d9388fb97@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Judy--Nice! ;0) Lisa On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:43 PM, judy w wrote: > Does anyone have news on the young whale that was swimming around Stearn's > wharf? > > Also, I attached an interview with Sylvia Earle from NPR. She is on to > talk about her new book, but covered a lot of information about the state of > the oceans. She's a true ocean champion. > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > -- Lisa Proud Marine Corp Mom LCPL. Nicholas Hale Anderson KIA 11/12/2004 "It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived." -General George S. Patton, Jr. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mr.zalophus at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 16:06:36 2010 From: mr.zalophus at gmail.com (Mr Zalophus) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:06:36 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CX trip photos - Sat 2/13 and Sun 2/14 Message-ID: Greetings, Photographs from the last CX Island Whale Watch (for southbound Grays, et al) on Sat 2/13, and the first CX Coastal Whale Watch (for northbound Grays, et al) are now posted to the boat's photo site: www.CondorExpressPhotos.com Although no southbound Grays were seen on Saturday, we did have 11 or 12 Humpbacks all around us, an elusive Minke, and tons of Common Dolphins. Sunday brought several northbound Grays, and southeast of Platform Holly, a massive feeding frenzy "hot spot." For a while the bait ball (northern anchovies) tried to escape under the boat, thus providing an opportunity to photograph California Sea Lions and Common Dolphins feeding close up. Groups of Common's using the "upside down" feeding behavior were also photographed. A short but friendly encounter with a dozen or so Dall's Porpoise also happened. It was a glorious weekend on the Channel, as other naturalists have reported earlier. best, Bob Perry Condor Express From vfolson at cox.net Mon Feb 15 17:05:12 2010 From: vfolson at cox.net (Valerie Olson) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:05:12 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Condor on 15 February Message-ID: <20F3198D-10E1-4FE8-B41A-A1446B42BE8B@cox.net> Hi All, Humpbacks: 7 Common Dolphins: 1 pod of about 40 Amazing day for 88 passengers from all over. Imagine Humpbacks in the Channel in mid February!! With many flukes and some rolling around, it was quite a show just off Santa Cruz. Regards, Valerie Olson, Cubby Winkel and Scott Cuzzo on PID From m_jsos at verizon.net Mon Feb 15 17:59:36 2010 From: m_jsos at verizon.net (MIKE & JOYCE) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:59:36 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CIS Ranger 85; 15 Feb 1100-1430 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B79FC08.3030006@verizon.net> Greetings naturalists, Grays : 3 (2 mature, 1 juvenile) south bound, observed for 1 hour, blowing and snorkeling. Common Dolphins: Several large and dispersed pods along our track. Bait patches with sealions, large rafts of Cormorants and Ca Brown Pelicans. Superb weather for cruise to Arch rock for a photo op of the surf, pelicans and cormorants. Thanks to the 32 passengers on-board with Capt Alex and crew, CINC Mike Sos and Sally Narkovick Skippered by Captain Alex Volunteering with Sally Narkovick > 2 Full boat runs > > Am run came out on smooth waters with easy long length 4'-5' swells. Out to the middle of the channel as we are into the Gray transition period with south bound stragglers and north bound early runners traversing the through. We turned east to head into the north bounders. On the way out a light pod of commons delighted the folks, with many locals ( southern California) on their first ever WW. A coupe of California Sea Lions, fins in the air, thermal regulating. Many of the folks thought that pretty cleaver. > > Still no blows, with seas just right for sighting, the commons were a nice relief, but they are not of the great whale kind. Well into the run call from the Condor came that they had two Humpbacks (maybe the two seen a couple of days ago) mid channel off of Santa Barbara a good bit. About face, a 30 minute run and a thanks to Condor for holding position for us as they broke for the SCI-SRI Gap and Painted Cave on sighting our approach. The Humpbacks had just sounded on regular five minute dives, as we came up on position. > > Right on schedule and THAR SHE BLOWS!!! The two Humpbacks surfaced showing their trademark hump and gave a coupe of nice flukes for the cameras. A few more cycles, ... they were gone and we were out of time and heading home, but with whales on the sighting sheet. With the winds picking up we surfed into the harbor on some fairly big swells. > > The PM run started out with some big swells right out of the harbor, white caps showing more and more as the off shore winds had picked up significantly. With increasing seas and the distance to our last sighting of the Humpbacks, Captain Dave headed straight for the AI-SCI gap to round AI into its wind shadow. Good chance of sighting south bound Grays. Sure enough, a pair of grays showed, but heading north. They were a bit distant, yet we could tell they we of good size, yet most likely juveniles. Even though they seemingly were "headed" very slowly, north, in the grays south bound lane, it was more like they were trying to figure it out as to which direction they should be going. But we gradually closed the gap between them and us as we came up on them. the offered some nice flukes to the delight of the folks o board. > > Another assist, this time from family, as the Vanguard said they had two Humpbacks more around the back of AI. In the AI-SCI gap with the two grays, we soon broke for the Humpbacks as the Vanguard broke off for home. Sure enough there they were, two Humpbacks. With the time we had returning to port for the AM run and coming back out, for the PM run, finding and spending good time with the two Grays, these two Humpbacks could easily be the same two we had sighed center channel off of Santa Barbara on the AM run. > > Again, with many locals on board, and first timers, to boot, these folks not only saw one species of whale, but two. Add that to the California Brown Pelican putting on its show of diving for their food. Only the three species of the Brown Pelican dive for its food, all the rest surface fish). > > It was one of the nicer days out on the water > > Thanks to Captains Dave and Steve, Zac and Dini(sp?) of the Islander and my good colleague, fellow Naturalist, Dick Bellman a good day was had by all. > > Ken Tatro > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2688 - Release Date: 02/14/10 11:35:00 > > From miramarragamuffin at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 15:35:48 2010 From: miramarragamuffin at yahoo.com (Deborah Lee Clark) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:35:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin sails again Message-ID: <58826.22588.qm@web63402.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Sunday February 14th Full house (47) but no sightings Monday, February 15th A.M. 18 passengers no sightings P.M. 34 passengers 2 gray whales 2 dozen bottlenose dolphins Great fun being aboard the Double Dolphin 1/2 day on Sunday and all day Monday. Calm seas, warm temperatures, mellow passengers and generally a wonderful way to initiate the DD's whale watching season. Followed the two grays for 1-1/4 hour along the coast from Shoreline park past Hendry's. Whales and ship meandering at a leisurely 3-5 mph pace. One gray smaller than the other medium-sized one but not small enough to be a calf. Dolphins at the end of the trip off the yacht club. Very active large group of what appeared to be smallish bottlenose. Good fun had by all with thanks to Capts. Don & Richard and 1st mates Stephanie and Tom. Deb Clark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camccleskey at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 22:42:25 2010 From: camccleskey at yahoo.com (Carolyn McCleskey) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:42:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Pelicans and SBWCN Message-ID: <150458.8121.qm@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The part played by SBWCN is described in this article published by the SB News Press at the height of the Pelican rescue operations.? Since I volunteer as a rescuer/transporter, here is the complete story.? June Taylor is a dedicated rehab person, so she has been warming the birds, tube feeding them and arranging for their transport to San Pedro, where they can be cleaned to make them seaworthy again.? SANTA BARBARA WILDLIFE CARE NETWORK AIDS PELICANS IN DISTRESS Santa Barbara, CA - January 21, 2010????????????????????????????????????? Due to?winter storms, many pelicans and other seabirds need help at this time of the year. According to the Santa Barbara News Press, a key? roosting place- a bait?barge in the harbor - has? been moved due to the storms?.? Over the past few days, Santa Barbara Wildlife Care Network has received 20 phones calls to their Helpline regarding distressed or injured pelicans and seabirds, and their staff and volunteers have rallied to the birds? assistance. Many pelicans may have been displaced due to the relocation of the barge roosting site and?have gathered near Cabrillo Blvd. Director of Animal Affairs, Julia Parker offers this plea, ?We urge the public not to disturb, chase or harass them, especially near a road where they can be hit by a car or cause an accident.? ?Santa Barbara Wildlife Care Network currently has twenty-five pelicans at their Seabird Satellite facility at Network volunteer June Taylor?s home and they are running out of space.? In addition to the pelicans, there are two grebes, one gull, one loon, and five cormorants. It is unfortunate that this storm hit before their permanent wildlife rehabilitation facility has become operational, as they will be able to accommodate many seabirds there. The storms this week have come at a time when their operating funds are already low, and they need additional income to help with the costs to care for these seabirds that require assistance. Each fish shipment that they receive costs $1007 and they have just ordered a rush shipment to meet immediate needs.? ?Several pelicans need to receive more comprehensive care at the International Bird Research and Rescue Center in San Pedro. Santa Barbara Wildlife Care Network transports pelicans to Malibu, where they?are ?picked up and taken the rest of the way to IBRRC?in San Pedro for intensive care. Space is running low in San Pedro where dozens of pelicans?have arrived that can not get warm and dry due to the poor water quality?during the ?storms that has compromised the bird's feather quality.? Today SBWCN volunteers are?? transporting a dozen pelicans to IBRRC in northern California.? ? The new SBWCN seabird center that is under construction has 2 pools that can house up to 50 pelicans. Unfortunately it cannot be opened until funding is received to complete the care center, and pave the parking and?driveway. If you can help by making a donation?please?call the Center Help at 681-1080? or stop by the Fairview center at 139 N. Fairview Rd in? the Fairview Shopping Center in Goleta. Julia Parker Director of Animal Affairs Santa Barbara Wildlife Care Network jparker at sbwnc 805-681-1080 ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sallymarian at earthlink.net Tue Feb 16 23:00:15 2010 From: sallymarian at earthlink.net (Sally Narkevic) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:00:15 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Ranger 85 Feb. 14 Message-ID: <8E2A28D99345437C85EA69066BAE237E@blackie> 2 Grays 2 Pods of Dolphins 1 Fin Whale? Three Flukes and a Spy Hop. Captain Frank, Rick and John Paul. Hundreds of Pelicans on East Anacapa, and Pinnepeds in abundance. Dolphins, bowriding and playing the following day, more Grays . Sally Narkevic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camccleskey at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 23:02:03 2010 From: camccleskey at yahoo.com (Carolyn McCleskey) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:02:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] 2/15 Island Adventure Message-ID: <323703.60229.qm@web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On the way out to Scorpion we were treated to a pod of Pacific white-sided Dolphins and? a gray whale appeared on the return trip.? But most exciting for me was seeing a Tufted Puffin slowly swimming toward the rocky shore as we waited for the IP boat around 3:30 at Scorpion. A perfect day for the hike led by Laurie, while I had visitor center duty and started the junior rangers off with their books to explore the island. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Wed Feb 17 14:05:55 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:05:55 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CDFG News Release - DFG Investigating Cause of Brown Pelican Deaths Message-ID: >From park marine biologist David Kushner: California Department of Fish and Game News Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - February 11, 2010 Contacts: Esther Burkett, Wildlife Biologist, (916) 445-3764 Dana Michaels, Information Officer, (916) 322-2420 DFG Investigating Cause of Brown Pelican Deaths The California Department of Fish and Game (DFG) is collaborating with other wildlife experts to investigate a brown pelican crisis all along the California coastline. Since mid-January, hundreds of the seabirds have been coming ashore in a variety of conditions, from merely confused to dead. Veterinarians, wildlife rescue and rehabilitation groups, Sea World, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and others are pooling their resources to determine the cause of these popular birds' distress. Wildlife rescue centers from the San Francisco Bay Area to San Diego are collecting the live pelicans and saving as many as possible. The International Bird Rescue Research Center (IBRRC) facility in San Pedro has more than 200 sick and injured pelicans in-house. IBRRCs San Francisco Bay Oiled Wildlife Care and Education Center in Cordelia has received more than 100 pelicans, and more are brought in each day. Many of the pelicans are wet, meaning that their feathers' insulating properties have been compromised and their feathers have parted, exposing their skin to the cold ocean water and winter weather. Thus, in addition to whatever has made them ill or disoriented, they are also suffering from hypothermia. None of the pelicans received from the Monterey Bay area thus far had significant feather fouling, but some pelicans in southern California did, and the severe winter storms and resultant urban run-off may be a factor. "We don't know what's causing this yet, but we've sent feather samples to various laboratories for analysis. It always helps to have multiple sets of eyes looking at things from a pathology perspective," said DFG Wildlife Veterinarian Melissa Miller, in Santa Cruz. Results of various tissue and organ analyses are not yet available to help determine the cause of the die-off. The El Ni?o condition in the marine environment may be a factor. DFG's Marine Wildlife Veterinary Care and Research Center in Santa Cruz has performed necropsies on 12 pelicans. Most of these were adults in breeding plumage that ranged from thin to good nutritional condition. Three of the dead pelicans had innkeeper worm parts in their intestines, and a few had what appeared to be seal or sea lion bite wounds on the breast, neck or back, with secondary bacterial infections. The necropsies have found that pelicans are eating unusual prey items, which is indicative that they are having trouble finding or accessing their normal prey of anchovies and sardines. IBRRC is feeding the captured birds with more than 1,000 lbs. of fish per day between its two centers. Unfortunately, the IBRRC is running out of money. Because of the state's enormous budget deficit, DFG has no funds to contribute but has sent biologists to assist IBRRC staff with pelican care in Cordelia, and DFG volunteers in southern California are assessing the number of dead pelicans on beaches. Anyone who wishes to help with care of the pelicans can make donations online at http://www.ibrrc.org. Donations are tax-deductible. "As someone who has been rehabilitating marine birds for more than 40 years in California, I must say that I have never seen anything like this that has lasted this long," said IBRRC Director Jay Holcomb. "There seems to be no end to this." The staff are banding and releasing rehabilitated pelicans as quickly as possible. Rehabilitated pelicans have blue-colored bands with identifying numbers to help track their survival in the wild. Anyone who sees pelicans that appear to be sick or injured, or entangled with fishing line should not touch or approach them. Injured wildlife will instinctively defend themselves and may injure someone trying to help them. To report pelicans in distress, the public can phone either 800-39-WHALE in Los Angeles County or 866-WILD-911 elsewhere. The latter number is also good for reporting dead marine birds. DFG is also advising the public not to feed the pelicans though some may appear to be begging or very weak. Feeding can lead to habituation to humans, and that can lead to conflicts in the future, such as entanglement in fishing line on or near piers. Improper feeding could also cause damage to the pelicans throat pouch or worsen their sickness. Though it is difficult to observe the pelicans in distress, it is a normal process for some to die in winter due to natural causes. Natural mortality is the inevitable consequence of the constant balancing between animal populations and shifting supplies of needed resources. California brown pelicans were removed from both the state and federal endangered species lists in 2009. #### Note: This e-mail account is used to distribute information to the public. Do not reply to this e-mail. Direct questions or comments regarding the information contained in this e-mail to the Department staff listed as points of contact for this subject. - Subscribe to DFG News via e-mail or RSS feed -- go to www.dfg.ca.gov/news - Subscribe (or unsubscribe) to DFG Marine Region News Service (e-mail notification of ocean-related news and information) at www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/subscribe.asp . From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Wed Feb 17 14:06:21 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:06:21 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Threat to the Channel Islands New Zealand Mudsnail Guide: new 2010 revision Message-ID: >From park marine biologist David Kushner: Hi All, This guide was forwarded to me and all of you should review it and attempt to prevent the introduction of New Zealand Mudsnails to the Channel Islands and elsewhere. These snails are right here in the Santa Clara River so there is a high potential for them to be transported to the Islands. Their introduction would significantly alter the riparian areas at the Islands. Thanks, David David Kushner Marine Biologist Channel Islands National Park 1901 Spinnaker Dr. Ventura, CA 93001 (805) 658-5773 David_kushner at nps.gov ----- Forwarded by Erin Williams/R6/FWS/DOI on 02/09/2010 01:24 PM ----- We completed and received the revised (second edition) New Zealand Mudsnail Guide. Some of the revisions include a new section on some look-alikes and a table outlining some disinfection treatments. http://seagrant.oregonstate.edu/sgpubs/onlinepubs/g10001.pdf (Note the pages in the PDF file will seem out of sequence because the design is in a booklet form with a fold out on the back page. To order copies of this brochure, call 541-737-4849 or e-mail Oregon Sea Grant,sea.grant.communications at oregonstate.edu. You can also download a pdf at http://seagrant.oregonstate.edu/sgpubs/onlinepubs.html Sam Samuel Chan, Assistant Professor Watershed Health and Aquatic Invasive Species Specialist Assistant Program Leader 307 Ballard Hall Sea Grant Extension Oregon State University Corvallis, OR 97331 PH: 503-679-4828; FAX:541-737-3039 samuel.chan at oregonstate.edu From dbellman at dock.net Wed Feb 17 21:23:48 2010 From: dbellman at dock.net (Dick Bellman) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:23:48 -0800 Subject: [CINC] 2/17 Aboard Ranger 85 Message-ID: <14e524ca1002172123w2fcd2882n53dc5ac4801b2f5f@mail.gmail.com> Today's trip aboard the Ranger 85 saw: - no whales - 3 species of Dolphin (Common, Bottlenose, Pacific White Sided) - lots of birds on the water Approximately 27 passengers on an absolutely beautiful day. Seas were incredibly calm. The scarcity of whales was offset by the numerous and varied dolphin sightings and the beautiful weather. 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That said: Condor yesterday : 1,000 or so common dolphins 2 humpbacks at North end on SCI - lots of action: flukes along with perfect breaches at exactly the same time. Amazing!! 5 or so Risso's Dolphin, if I recall correctly 42 passengers Matt, Dave and Jacques Condor today: 2 lovely humpbacks in about the same location asd yesterday - many flukes plus feeding, chillin', etc. 2 Dall's Porpoise sightings - smallish groups "checkin' in" 20 plus passengers - escapees from snow bound states in the US and from countries in Europe - all very happy with warm sunshine and calm seas and sea life the added bonus. Hope someone can take the slot, tho as I recall, Cubby is on, so know he is a MASTER and can handle anything!!! Do let all the powers that be know if you are up for the noon Condor. Thanks, Rae Rae Emmett razie at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jjwinkel at cox.net Thu Feb 18 16:31:21 2010 From: jjwinkel at cox.net (Cubby Winkel) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:31:21 -0800 Subject: [CINC] 2/18 Condor Express Message-ID: <051901cab0fa$dc66fd10$9534f730$@net> 2 juvenile Grey Whales 700 Common Dolphins 6 Bottlenose Dolphins Capt Mat, Capt Jacquws, DJ, Cubby and 22 of our closest friends headed out from the SB harbor at noon today in search of the Grey Whales under cloudy skies and with a very minor swell. Initially we found a small group of common dolphins follwed in short order bay a second group of Commons. When we approached platform Holly we finally spotted our first whale. While we were watching that juvenile on the starboard side another juvenile popped up on the port side. Eventually the two paired up and we were able to follow them until it was time to return to port. The 0900 and 1500 trips were cancelled today. ASDIP Cubby Winkel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 18 20:02:02 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:02:02 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin 2/18 Message-ID: Hi All, Double Dolphin had the a.m. trip cancelled, but 17 on the afternoon trip. Captain Don took us up the coast one mile short of Goleta pier. No whales spotted, but we were treated to three different visiting pods of healthy looking Bottlenose. One pod of 5 on the way out, and a pod of 3, then one of 6 on the way in. The last pod was just outside the harbor. Many cormorants and pelicans were actively feeding in quiet near shore waters on the way in. And, of course, the sea lions posed on the entrance buoy for us. Are passengers were mostly locals with a good representation from Lompoc. The two small children thoroughly enjoyed the Catamaran's close view of the dolphin. All were given rainchecks because no "big"marine mammals were found! Paul _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Fri Feb 19 09:16:45 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:16:45 -0800 Subject: [CINC] NPS Press Release: New Firearms Law Takes Effect Monday Message-ID: National Park Service News Release February 18, 2010 Contact: David Barna, 202-208-6843, david_barna at nps.gov New Firearms Law Takes Effect Monday National parks now subject to state and local firearms laws WASHINGTON ? A change in federal law effective Monday, February 22, allows firearms in many national parks. People who can legally possess firearms under federal and state law can now possess those firearms in the national parks in that state. The new law (Sec. 512 of P.L. 111-24) was passed by Congress and signed last May by the President. Prior to February 22, firearms have generally been prohibited in national parks ? except in some Alaska parks and those parks that allow hunting. State and local firearms laws vary. Visitors who would like to bring a firearm with them to a national park need to understand and comply with the applicable laws. More than 30 national parks are located in more than one state, so visitors need to know where they are in those parks and which state?s law applies. ?For nearly 100 years, the mission of the National Park Service has been to protect and preserve the parks and to help all visitors enjoy them,? National Park Service Director Jon Jarvis said. ?We will administer this law as we do all others ? fairly and consistently.? Federal law continues to prohibit the possession of firearms in designated ?federal facilities? in national parks, for example, visitor centers, offices, or maintenance buildings. These places are posted with ?firearms prohibited? signs at public entrances. The new law also does not change prohibitions on the use of firearms in national parks and does not change hunting regulations Park websites have been updated to include links to state firearms laws to help visitors understand the law and plan accordingly. -NPS- Sec. 512 of P.L. 111-24, an amendment to the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act of 2009, also directs the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to follow state and local firearms laws in national wildlife refuges. David_Barna at nps.gov infozone 1.94.5 From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Fri Feb 19 09:37:59 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:37:59 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Press release--Park Superintendent Charts a Course for the Future Message-ID: February 18, 2010 For Immediate Release Yvonne Menard, Channel Islands National Park (805) 658-5725 Shauna Bingham, Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary (805) 382-6151 #102 Channel Islands National Park 30th Anniversary: Charting a Course for the Future During the March ?From Shore to Sea? lectures, Channel Islands National Park Superintendent Russell Galipeau will commemorate the park?s 30th anniversary. In March, Channel Islands National Park celebrates its 30th anniversary as our nation?s 40th national park. The five islands and the surrounding one mile of ocean that comprise this national park were designated on March 5, 1980, when President Jimmy Carter signed Public Law 96-199. In a letter Carter wrote, ?These beautiful, fragile islands richly deserve the recognition and protection that park status provides.? Galipeau will highlight some of the restoration efforts made since the park was established by presenting the film ?Restoring Balance: Santa Cruz Island,? which focuses on a recent effort to save the island fox, reestablish bald eagles, eliminate non-native feral pigs, and relocate golden eagles as part of an island-wide restoration project. Following the film, Galipeau will look ahead as the park charts its course for the next 30 years. He will discuss upcoming plans and restoration projects, including the undertaking of a new General Management Plan that will provide a vision for the future. The new plan will help identify how the National Park Service may best provide for visitor enjoyment of the park while still protecting cultural and natural resources for future generations. The ?From Shore to Sea? lecture series is jointly sponsored by Channel Islands National Park and Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary with support from Santa Barbara Maritime Museum. The purpose of the series is to further the understanding of current research on the Channel Islands and surrounding waters. The lectures occur at 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday, March 9, 2010, at Santa Barbara Maritime Museum, 113 Harbor Way in the Santa Barbara Harbor and Wednesday, March 10, 2010, at the Channel Islands National Park Robert J. Lagomarsino Visitor Center, 1901 Spinnaker Drive in the Ventura Harbor. The programs are free and open to the public. This publication is available on line at: www.nps.gov/chis/parknews/newsreleases.htm From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 19 10:25:04 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:25:04 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Whale Mortality in Goleta Message-ID: Sad News from Goleta, Yesterday's Santa Barbara News-Press reported that Wednesday eve a young Gray whale washed up near Goleta Pier dead. The paper speculated that it was the young Gray sighted last week near the Santa Barbara pier without it's mother in sight. Another very alive whale was seen by beach-goers about the same time off the same beach. According to the paper,the Santa Barbara Marine Mammal Center has been monitoring at least three close to shore over the past week. The Center immediately contacted the SB Museum of Natural History about this one. Michelle Berman of the Museum is coordinating a necropsy on the beach ( as of yesterday). 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Tatro) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:52:57 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Goleta Beach Dead Gray Whale calf Message-ID: <43BAB45C-88FE-46A0-AFD6-A218F03E33DD@cox.net> Hi folks, Some info on this. http://www.noozhawk.com/briefs/article/021810_california_gray_whale_calf_found_dead_on_west_goleta_beach/ http://www.keyt.com/news/local/84679042.html Ken Tatro From staci at savzsea.com Fri Feb 19 14:38:30 2010 From: staci at savzsea.com (Staci Kaye-Carr) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:30 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Marine mammals on Science Friday with Ira Flatow on NPR References: Message-ID: <53EDCD15-9CDB-444B-A799-CD9E87FF0827@savzsea.com> > > Science Friday with Ira Flatow on NPR > http://www.sciencefriday.com/ > Studying Epilepsy in Sea Lions > > We'll talk about epileptic seizures in sea lions, caused by algal > blooms at sea, as a model for human epilepsy. > > http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201002192 > > Dolphins and Comparative Medicine > > What happens when a dolphin catches a cold? No, it's not a trick > question. In this hour, we'll talk about what marine mammals can > teach us about human biology. > > http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201002193 > > Squid Invasion Off California Coast > > > http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201002123 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ginnyafischer at me.com Fri Feb 19 14:47:02 2010 From: ginnyafischer at me.com (Ginny Fischer) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:47:02 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Need Sub Message-ID: <61A91025-B7DC-4653-9FD2-BCAB29C19B87@me.com> I have come down with pneumonia and cannot take my shift on Friday, 2/26 on the Condor, 9-11:30 am and 12-2:30. Please call or email me if you have any interest. Thank you, Ginny Fischer 805-451-4429 ginnyafischer at me.com From scott at scottcuzzo.com Fri Feb 19 17:47:34 2010 From: scott at scottcuzzo.com (Scott Cuzzo) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:47:34 -0600 Subject: [CINC] Condor available for tomorrow! Message-ID: <20100220014734.1be96c4b@corp.kvcinc.com> I was on the Condor today for someone else's shift. Does someone want my trips on the Condor tomorrow? 9 to 3 p.m. The 3 p.m. trip is cancelled. If no one takes it, I'll go, but if you want to go, please take it. Regards, Scott Cuzzo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at scottcuzzo.com Fri Feb 19 18:33:14 2010 From: scott at scottcuzzo.com (Scott Cuzzo) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:33:14 -0600 Subject: [CINC] Condor tomorrow Message-ID: <20100220023314.a0b704b8@corp.kvcinc.com> Kevin Bailey is taking my Condor trips tomorrow. Enjoy! Scott Cuzzo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dbellman at dock.net Fri Feb 19 20:22:24 2010 From: dbellman at dock.net (Dick Bellman) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:22:24 -0800 Subject: [CINC] 2/19 Aboard the Islander Message-ID: <14e524ca1002192022o6a85dc32q3128fa7591fa23a5@mail.gmail.com> Today aboard the Islander: - 4 Gray's - 1,000+ Common Dolphins - 1 Stellar Sea Lion Despite the warnings of approaching weather the AM trip was treated to delightful seas and viewing conditions. Shortly out of the Ventura harbor we encountered a lone northbound juvenile Gray. He proved to be rather elusive and we soon moved on. One half hour later, as we neared platform Gilda, we encountered what appeared to be a mating pod of 3 Gray's which we were with for almost one hour. They provided incredible views and demonstrated some rather amorous whale behavior. One repeatedly rolled on its side, raising a fluke in the air, with another in very close proximity. We viewed a few examples of spy hopping. This pod of 3 Gray's was continuously accompanied by a small pod of common dolphins. Needless to say the 95 or so passengers were thrilled with the sighting. The PM trip proved to be more challenging as the marine mammals were most difficult to find. We were able to observe a very large Stellar Sea Lion hauled out on the rocks behind Arch Rock. Fortunately we finally encountered a pod of 1,000+ dolphins as we headed back to port, ahead of the storm. Unfortunately whale sightings did not occur during the afternoon. Kudos to Anthony, Dave, Andrea and Dee Dee for another great job showing passengers our wonderful SB channel and educating them along the way. Joanna Guttman was the other naturalist on board today. Dick Bellman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From diver23 at cox.net Sat Feb 20 21:00:25 2010 From: diver23 at cox.net (Kevin Bailey) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:00:25 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Condor Sat 2/20/2010 Message-ID: <000301cab2b2$c7e1fe80$57a5fb80$@net> 9 AM trip 1 Gray off East Beach we followed to Hendry's Beach but was very elusive 1 Gray farther north for a quick glimpse then not again 1 Gray coming back less than mile from pier - saw once and never again - 3 quick sightings for the trip 50 common dolphins Lots of birds: Hundreds of Pelicans still hanging out in harbor with DC Cormorants Grebes Black skimmers Royal terns tons of gulls (it was a beach day for the birds) In the water leaving harbor: Western Grebes Buffleheads (6) - we have seen them there this past week Common Loons (they have been there this past week too) Cruising along shore: a Parasitic Jaeger and Rhinoceros Auklet About 20 Brandt's Cormorant flew directly over our head on the boat not more than 15 above my head and more later in the trip 6 Common Mures Noon trip 1 Gray soon out of harbor 1 Gray we followed from Hendry's Beach through Hope Ranch; it breached 3 times (this one could have been the one seen going back onto harbor from AM trip) - 2 sighting for the trip (For the day 1 whale was an adult, the others maybe 1-3 years, clearly juveniles) 2500 Common Dolphins - they were swimming generally west but in all directions feeding - one of the largest groups I have seen; very scattered and could be seen in all directions Still lots of same birds as above 3pm trip cancelled for a charter Visitors for day from Brazil, London, MI, MS, IL, NY, UT and locals Kevin Bailey with David Telleen-Lawton Barbara LaCorte PID And Mat, Dave, and Jacque -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Tthe photo of the parasitic jaeger chasing a tern was too small to view properly). best, Bob Perry Condor Express On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Kevin Bailey wrote: > 9 AM trip > > 1 Gray off East Beach we followed to Hendry?s Beach but was very elusive > > 1 Gray farther north for a quick glimpse then not again > > 1 Gray coming back less than mile from pier ? saw once and never again ? 3 > quick sightings for the trip > > 50 common dolphins > > Lots of birds: > > Hundreds of Pelicans still hanging out in harbor with > > DC Cormorants > > Grebes > > Black skimmers > > Royal terns > > tons of gulls > > (it was a beach day for the birds) > > In the water leaving harbor: > > Western Grebes > > Buffleheads (6) ? we have seen them there this past week > > Common Loons (they have been there this past week too) > > Cruising along shore: a Parasitic Jaeger and > > Rhinoceros Auklet > > About 20 Brandt?s Cormorant flew directly over our head on the boat not more > than 15 above my head and more later in the trip > > 6 Common Mures > > > > > > Noon trip > > 1 Gray soon out of harbor > > 1 Gray we followed from Hendry?s Beach through Hope Ranch; ?it breached 3 > times (this one could have been the one seen going back onto harbor from AM > trip) ? 2 sighting for the trip > > (For the day 1 whale was an adult, the others maybe 1-3 years, clearly > juveniles) > > 2500 Common Dolphins ? they were swimming generally west but in all > directions feeding ? one of the largest groups I have seen; very scattered > and could be seen in all directions > > Still lots of same birds as above > > > > 3pm trip cancelled for a charter > > > > Visitors for day from Brazil, London, MI, MS, IL, NY, UT and locals > > > > > > Kevin Bailey > > > > with > > David Telleen-Lawton > > Barbara LaCorte PID > > > > And > > Mat, Dave, and Jacque > > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps > > From maria at rasnowpeak.com Mon Feb 22 07:29:43 2010 From: maria at rasnowpeak.com (Maria G. Ornelas) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:29:43 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Whale-watching 2/22 Message-ID: Hi Naturalists, Trip on CI Sports fishing at 11a.m. - 2p.m. cancelled for lack of passengers. Maria G. Ornelas maria at rasnowpeak.com \ / \ / ??'?.??..><((((?>.???'?.??.???'?.?><((({?>?.???'?.?. ,. / \ / \ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Mon Feb 22 08:36:10 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:36:10 -0800 Subject: [CINC] ALL DOI Nationwide - Interior FCU Loan Promotions Message-ID: Greetings, Naturalists! Last year I sent out a message from the Department of the Interior's credit union stating that as a volunteer for the national park, you are eligible to be a member of the credit union. If you are interested, here is another promotion from them below. Please contact them directly for more details, and if you need a letter from me verifying that you are indeed a volunteer for Interior, please let me know. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ February 19, 2010 Memorandum To: DOI Employees and Volunteers From: Interior Federal Credit Union (Interior FCU) Subject: Interior FCU Loan Promotions Owe Taxes? Relax? Tax season is upon us and you might have to pay. If you owe more than you expected, don?t tap into your savings. Let Interior FCU help with a Tax Loan up to $20,000 at just 7.74% APR!* Offer good through April 15, 2010. Don?t owe any taxes but needs some funds to tide you over; this loan is available for you too. Get Green and Save. The Energy Efficiency Loan allows you to take advantage of energy efficiency measures now that will save money in the future. 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Visit https://www.doifcuhb.org/site/loans_personal.html for information on the Tax Loan and Energy Efficiency Loan and other loan products or call us at (800)914-8619. *APR=Annual Percentage Rate. Rate is effective 2/17/2010. Limited-time offers and may change at any time without advance notice. No refinancing of existing loans. No other offers apply. Loan amount is up to $20,000 with minimum of $500 and terms up to 5 years. Rate includes a .25% discount if member has an Interior FCU checking account, Direct Deposit and an ATM Card or VISA? Check Card. The minimum monthly payment per $1,000 is $20.27. + A member must take the loan between February 17 and April 15, 2010 to be eligible for the VISA Reward Points program and for the special rate. ^Available only for existing owner-occupied residential dwellings. Equal Housing Lender NCUA National Credit Union Administration, a U.S. Government Agency Your savings federally insured to at least $250,000 and backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government From mbucholtz at me.com Mon Feb 22 11:43:14 2010 From: mbucholtz at me.com (Mary Bucholtz) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:43:14 -0800 Subject: [CINC] CX Sunday, 2/21 12 p.m. Message-ID: <27DAF305-320F-4371-B2A3-071DC9800AD0@me.com> 2 gray whales absolutely nothing else Debby Shelley and I welcomed about 25 passengers for the only trip of the day (the first and third trips were cancelled). Despite choppy waters and some raindrops, we found two gray whales near Gaviota, thanks to a tip Captain Mat received from Michael Smith of Gray Whales Count. We got several great views before we had to return to the harbor. We looked for common dolphins on the way back, but no luck. Mary *********************** Mary Bucholtz mbucholtz at me.com *********************** From dbellman at dock.net Mon Feb 22 12:30:25 2010 From: dbellman at dock.net (Dick Bellman) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:30:25 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin 2/21 Message-ID: <14e524ca1002221230i169e14b3q83b88144ea45a978@mail.gmail.com> Our day aboard the DD was very similar to the CX. With very choppy seas and lots of wind we were able to spot 1 Gray whale which provided only fleeting glimpses. Absolutely nothing else. Nonetheless the 25 or so residence hall RA's from UCSB had a blast. Dick Bellman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfolson at cox.net Mon Feb 22 16:04:52 2010 From: vfolson at cox.net (Valerie Olson) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:04:52 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Condor on 2 February Message-ID: <4260D3F2-2B6B-4C2B-99A2-BE0E57BB16AD@cox.net> Hi All, Gray Whales - 2 Common Dolphins -small pod of about 6 animals Noon: Very small group of international passengers enjoyed a lovely day on the Channel with two gray whales ... one big adult and one smaller animal (not a calf). Lots of flukes to see and a breach as well! 9AM and 3PM trips were cancelled Valerie Olson, Don Gillies and Carolyn Mc Cleskey on PID From Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov Mon Feb 22 16:09:09 2010 From: Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov (Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:09:09 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Would you like to volunteer using your woodworking skills? Message-ID: Greetings! Do you have woodworking skills that you would like to share? Channel Islands National Park is seeking a skilled volunteer (you don't need to be a member of the CINC) for a short-term project at the park headquarters in Ventura Harbor, refinishing our inside wooden railings. Most likely the work would begin in March or later. If you are interested, please let me know. Thanks! Clare Clare Fritzsche Volunteer Coordinator Assistant Channel Islands National Park 1901 Spinnaker Drive Ventura, CA 93001 (805) 658-5733 FAX: (805) 658-5799 Mary_C_Fritzsche at nps.gov From cfrench1366 at aol.com Tue Feb 23 10:20:47 2010 From: cfrench1366 at aol.com (Catherine French) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:20:47 -0500 Subject: [CINC] Mass strandings In-Reply-To: <947785.97053.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <947785.97053.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC82CC0CE5C8C5-4090-1362@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com> Strandings have occurred locally, but not in such great numbers. Check the link below for the short piece I about the 5 Northern right whale dolphins that stranded at San Miguel Island. One of the most common theories about strandings is that when one whale strands (due to illness, etc.), the others refuse to abandon it. http://www.thelog.com/news/logNewsArticle.aspx?x=9686 Sincerely, Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com 805.815.3523 805.570.0432 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Marty Flam To: CINC Rainlist Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 9:52 pm Subject: [CINC] Mass strandings Dear Fellow Naturalists, Is it correct to say none of this behavior has ever occured here? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_re_as/as_new_zealand_whales_strand arty ______________________________________________ hannel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list hannel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org ttp://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 24 12:30:49 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:30:49 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin: 2/23/10 Message-ID: Hi All, Today's a.m. trip cancelled for too few passengers. However, the 13:00 trip departed with nine passengers, who included Bostonians and a couple from Slovakia. Only one distant (800+ yds) fluking whale sighted 1/3rd mile off Campus Point. Species not certain as it was never seen surfacing again. 15 Common Dolphin also 1/2 mile off Hendry's Beach. UNUSUAL HAPPENINGS: An hour before departure the wind from the west was increasing, and the Double Dolphin's spinnaker was bellowing in the wind at dockside as a smart marketing ploy. However, by the time we departed the seas were glassy calm, with a zero like beaufort and NO wind.Overcast skies prevailed, yet visibility was forever. Swells were barely 1'. Then the 15 Common dolphin were all juveniles or calves, in an area where Bottlenose usually greet boats. Finally, the fluke was a definite sighting by your's truly, as well as passengers, easily seen on the glassy waters, but no follow-up after over a 30 min wait and cruise in the area. Paul Petrich _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov Wed Feb 24 14:53:09 2010 From: Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov (Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:53:09 -0800 Subject: [CINC] MARCH/APRIL OUTREACH EVENTS Message-ID: Naturalists, we have a plethora of community events and science nights coming up where you can earn valuable CINC hours. Here's the list for March, and April to peek your interest. You may email me at any time to volunteer for community outreach. MARCH EVENTS March 4 (Thursday night) Hollister School Science Night, Santa Barbara March 10 (Wednesday night) Las Colinas School Science Night, Camarillo March 21 (Sunday) Celebration of the Whales, Channel Islands Harbor (a.m. and p.m. shifts available) Click here for the March sign-up sheet: http://www.nps.gov/chis/supportyourpark/upload/MAR_Outreach_2010.pdf APRIL EVENTS April 8 (Thursday night) San Cayetano School Science Night, Fillmore April 10 Oxnard Earth Day April 14 Math and Science Career Expo/Ventura County Science Fair, Ventura County Fairgrounds April 15 (Thursday night) Washington School Science Night, Santa Barbara April 17 Ventura Earth Day April 17 California Wildlife/Earth Day Festival, Los Angeles Zoo April 18 South Coast Earth Day, Santa Barbara April 18 Whale Fest Leo Carrillo State Park, Malibu April 24 Gold Coast Science Network (Teacher's conference), Oxnard April 24 & 25 Earth Day Aquarium of the Pacific, Long Beach April schedule online soon! Thank you so much for continuing coverage at outreach events, and all of the other wonderful things that we do! Tina Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. Harbor Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93035 (805) 382-6149 x 100 (805) 382-9791 Fax From judyw88 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 24 19:08:48 2010 From: judyw88 at hotmail.com (judy w) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:08:48 -0800 Subject: [CINC] FW: teachers resource available In-Reply-To: <596C550AC4C3C549BB4877B92DC696E0448068@APCDVORTEX> References: <596C550AC4C3C549BB4877B92DC696E0448068@APCDVORTEX> Message-ID: Last year Ventura County APCD produced a 40 minute movie on Air. "Air the Search for One Clean Breath" It was shown at Shore to Sea in January 2009. The curriculum and teachers guide have just been completed. See the link below, and pass this on to science teachers you know. District staff are still doing community presentations of the movie for interested organizations(clubs, churches, etc) . Subject: Educator's Guide to Air - the search for one clean breath The Guide is now available online at www.airthefilm.org. Thanks to all of you who helped with this project. -Barbara Barbara L. Page, Public Information Manager Ventura County Air Pollution Control District 805/645-1415 www.airthefilm.org _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov Thu Feb 25 10:04:23 2010 From: Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (Shauna Bingham) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:04:23 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Channel Islands Art to be Featured at the SB Maritime Museum Message-ID: <4B86BBA7.3020906@noaa.gov> Tuesday, March 2: 6:30-8:00 pm *Artist David Gallup on Painting the Channel Islands * $: FREE Public Program Thousand Oaks artist David Gallup will discuss his recent project, painting the Channel Islands National Park and Marine Sanctuary. The resulting works are part of a nationwide solo museum tour scheduled to start later this year. /Nature's Masterpiece: California's Channel Islands and Marine Sanctuary/ will be comprised of approximately 75 paintings of the park's landscape and wildlife, much of which was painted on location. The evening begins with a half-hour discussion of his grand-scale painting of orcas off the Anacapa Coast, /Twice Humbled/, which the Maritime Museum has on display through June 2010. This will be followed by a media presentation and footage from a documentary film currently in production about Gallup and his work on the islands. Film Producer Susan Sember will be in attendance, and will give a short talk about why Gallup was such a compelling subject for a film, and what makes this project so exciting for her. Questions are welcome throughout the evening. Join us for an evening to get better acquainted with your local National Park and the work of one of California's most-distinguished fine artists. www.sbmm.org -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He represents the Administration on the West Coast Governors' Agreement on Ocean Health, California Coastal Commission, the San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission, the federal Outer Continental Shelf Advisory Board, the California Ocean Science Trust, and the Southern California Coastal Water Research Project among others. He has authored or co-authored papers on ocean management, liquefied natural gas facility siting, archaeological resources, oil spill contingency planning, marine managed areas, regional ocean governance, and coastal economics and was the chief writer of chief writer of Governor Schwarzenegger's 2004 strategy titled, ?Protecting Our Ocean - California's Strategy for Action.? On Earth Day April 23, 1999, Assistant Secretary Baird was designated an "Environmental Hero" by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and in February 2008 he received NOAA's Susan Snow-Cotter Award for Excellence in Ocean and Coastal Management. Sponsored by: UCSB's College of Letters and Science Critical Issues in America Lecture Series and the Environmental Studies Program ************************************************************************* Eric Zimmerman Office: Bren Hall, Rm 4312B Academic/Internship Coordinator Email: zimmerman at es.ucsb.edu Environmental Studies Program Phone: 805-893-3185 University of California Fax: 805-893-8686 Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4160 Web: http://www.es.ucsb.edu ************************************************************************* "Work Hard ~ Play Harder!" -- Shauna Bingham Volunteer and Outreach Coordinator NOAA Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3600 S. Harbor Blvd. #111 Oxnard, CA 93035 Shauna.Bingham at noaa.gov (805) 382-6149 ext. 102 Fax (805) 382-9791 http://channelislands.noaa.gov ??`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??..><((((?>???`?.??.. From thusone at aol.com Thu Feb 25 15:39:05 2010 From: thusone at aol.com (thusone at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:05 -0500 Subject: [CINC] CI Sports Thurs nogo Message-ID: <8CC848ADA775601-1E50-17BD@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Channel Island Sports did not go out today because not enough tickets sold. Shirley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dbellman at dock.net Thu Feb 25 17:56:18 2010 From: dbellman at dock.net (Dick Bellman) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:56:18 -0800 Subject: [CINC] 2/25 Aboard the CX Message-ID: <14e524ca1002251756l28479e51oc158b6517e0d90f8@mail.gmail.com> On a beautiful day 37 passengers ventured out on the Condor Express with Capt Matt at the helm. During the 12:00 run they sighted: - 3 Gray's - 1 small pod of common dolphin There were passengers from Germany, France and Holland along with visitors from Pennsylvania, Montana, Utah and Idaho mixed in with the usual contingent of Californians. When comparing their back home temperatures there was little sympathy for us as we "struggle" through the dead of winter. Even though there was ample evidence of bait fish in the water along with large groups of birds feeding on same, we were hard pressed to locate common dolphins until the very end of the trip. We got very good looks at the Grays which were encountered just past UCSB, very close to shore. Unfortunately the noon trip was the only adventure of the day as the 9 and 3 trips were scrubbed. It was a pleasure working with Cubby Winkel along with Hal Altman on PID. Dick Bellman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lisarizzo at earthlink.net Thu Feb 25 17:58:11 2010 From: lisarizzo at earthlink.net (Lisa Rizzo) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:58:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CINC] Sunday Feb 28th Available - Island Packers - Vta Message-ID: <20527517.1267149491334.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi All, Can anyone take my Whale Watching trips on Sunday Feb 28th on Island Packers? 9:30am -1:00pm 1:00pm - 5:00pm Thank you, Lisa Rizzo 805-654-0194 From Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov Fri Feb 26 15:20:14 2010 From: Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov (Tina Johnson) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:20:14 -0800 Subject: [CINC] OUTREACH EVENTS Message-ID: <4B88572E.5090508@noaa.gov> CINC, we have had quite a few requests to participate in the March 21 Celebration of the Whales festival in Channel Islands Harbor. All of the shifts are now filled (thank you!), and we still have open shifts in March as follows: * March 4 (Thursday) Event 6-8 pm Hollister School Science Night in Santa Barbara, present the Photo ID research program to students with another naturalist! Free pizza dinner included. * March 10 (Wednesday) Event 7-8:45 pm Las Colinas School Science Night in Camarillo, present the Photo Id research program OR nautical chart mapping activity. Free In-N-Out dinner provided. Please note that this is the night of the From Shore to Sea lecture in Ventura. Feel free to email questions to either me or Shauna about these science night presentations. If you are interested please email me! Thank you. Tina -- Tina Johnson Ventura County Field Office Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary 3550 S. Harbor Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93035 (805) 382-6149 x 100 (805) 382-9791 Fax Tina.Johnson at noaa.gov http://channelislands.noaa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkuizenga at linkline.com Fri Feb 26 15:23:46 2010 From: jkuizenga at linkline.com (John Kuizenga) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin 2/25, 10 am & 1 pm Message-ID: Yesterdays (2/25) trips (10 & 1) aboard the Double Dolphin were for the birds! This is a good things (for the most part) as we observed many birds in SB Harbor (W. Pelican; Black Skimmers (seem to be face into the wind when on shore, Yesterday West, today SE); Western Grebes (Remember: Wild Wild West, which refers to the gray ?mask? surrounding their eyes which will helps distinguish them from Clarke?s Grebes- This little birding I.D. Gem from Sally Eagle); Western and CA Gulls and in the Diving Duck Category, several Buffleheads observed. At Sea, many of the same birds as seen in SB Harbor, in addition to either Pacific or Common Loons heading north and unfortunately a number of dead birds were also sighted on shore and at sea including: 1-Pelicans; 1-CA Gull; 1-Double Crested Cormorant and a decomposing Common Murre at sea. On shore either a Western, or more likely because of it?s smaller size a CA Gull, also a sick Pelican (reported to Widlife Care Network The Marine mammal count was as follows: * AM Trip: *Single pod of Common Dolphins, approximately 50 *Sea Lions *Possible sighting of a single Pacific White Sided Dolphin by Captain Scott *Unfortunately no Grays Whales *One Sea Lion in advanced stages of decomposition * PM Trip: *4-5 small pods (25-100) of Common Dolphins (perhaps scouting parties looking for the periodically seen schools of anchovies) C Dolphins were balling them up and then shooting through the bait balls snagging their pry before they could maneuver to safely. Pelicans & Double Crested Cormorants were were seen from quite a distance working the patches of bait along with the small splashes of the Dolphins and darker patches of water provided notice of the feed frenzy we were about to observe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkuizenga at linkline.com Fri Feb 26 15:39:28 2010 From: jkuizenga at linkline.com (John Kuizenga) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:39:28 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Double Dolphin 2/25, 10 am & 1 pm Message-ID: P.S Previous report for the same trip on the DD sent prematurely ,prior to being completed. Sorry for the duplication Yesterdays (2/25) trips (10 & 1) aboard the Double Dolphin were for the birds! This is a good things (for the most part) as we observed many birds in SB Harbor (B. Pelican; Black Skimmers (seem to be facing into the wind when on shore, Yesterday West, today SE); Western Grebes (Remember: Wild Wild West, which refers to the gray ?mask? surrounding their eyes which will helps distinguish them from Clarke?s Grebes- This little birding I.D. Gem from Sally Eagle); Western and CA Gulls and in the Diving Duck Category, several Buffleheads observed. At Sea, many of the same birds as seen in SB Harbor, in addition to either Pacific or Common Loons (suspect Pacific because of small size?) heading north and unfortunately a number of dead birds were also sighted on shore and at sea including: 1-Pelicans; 1-CA Gull; 1-Double Crested Cormorant and a decomposing Common Murre . On shore either a Western, or more likely because of it?s smaller size a CA Gull, also a sick Pelican (reported to Widlife Care Network) The Marine mammal count was as follows: * AM Trip: *Single pod of Common Dolphins, approximately 50 *Sea Lions *Possible sighting of a single Pacific White Sided Dolphin by Captain Scott *Unfortunately no Grays Whales *One Sea Lion in advanced stages of decomposition * PM Trip: *4-5 small pods (25-100) of Common Dolphins (perhaps scouting parties looking for the periodically seen schools of anchovies) C Dolphins were balling them up and then shooting through the bait balls snagging their pry before they could maneuver to safely. Pelicans & Double Crested Cormorants were seen from quite a distance, working the patches of bait along with the small splashes of Dolphins and darker patches of water. All providing notice of the feed frenzy we were about to witness * Again No Gray Whales John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eradding at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 26 17:28:46 2010 From: eradding at sbcglobal.net (EUGENE RADDING) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:28:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Fri. 02/26/10 Message-ID: <962733.80480.qm@web180304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The Ranger 85 went out today with 100% overcast sky, smooth water, 49 passengers (mostly a kids class along with parents and teachers), led by Capts Frank and Alex.? A few bottle nose dolphins out of the harbor, then no whales around AI. Not until?we were on the way back and within sight of shore did we come upon five northbound?gray whales with a show you shouldn't have missed. They fluked, they slowed down for us for good looks, and generally made the passengers very excited and impressed with their performance. The common dolphins along the way out and back (about 600 in various places) made the day complete.??? Marty Flam and I were pleased that it was such a completely satisfying day in Paradise. ??EUGENE RADDING -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miramarragamuffin at yahoo.com Fri Feb 26 19:50:18 2010 From: miramarragamuffin at yahoo.com (Deborah Lee Clark) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:50:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] IPCO's Friday whale of a tale Message-ID: <489250.62038.qm@web63403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Morning: 2 bottlenose dolphins 200 common dolphins 1000 common dolphins Afternoon: 35 bottlenose dolphins 24 common dolphins with 7+ gray whales 500 common dolphins Morning started with high hopes for the 90 aboard including students from Century High School in Thousand Oaks and Pacific High School in Ventura (both alternative/extension schools) and parents and toddlers from a Ventura group named "Mamma Mia" who gather to do fun and interesting events together. Amongst the rest of the passengers was a lovely older woman who saw her first whale from the beach as a child in Redondo Beach and who has continued to follow them far and wide including St. Ignacio lagoon in the seventies, Alaska's Inland Passage, Hawaii, belugas somewhere, etc., etc. She was delightful as were all aboard. I commend the teenagers for their patience and good manners amidst frustration of not finding any whales! Very few expectations accompanied the 47 passengers as we headed out for the afternoon run. Within 14 minutes we spotted about 35 bottlenose and then a couple dozen commons along with numerous grays which we followed for over an hour. The grays appeared to have other things to do than strictly heading north. One very closely knit pod of 3 looked like they were mating with lots of splashing, some rolling over, too many flukes to count and numerous changes in direction. They were joined on and off by 4 to 5 other grays. When we finally left them there was a line up of 7 or 8 abreast. An incredible sighting recorded on film by Capt. Anthony while Capt. David took us for a spin south of the Anacapa arch for a wee bit and a lengthy cruise along the north side until we got to the west end where we needed to give nesting pelicans a wide birth/berth. Most amazing and exhilarating. Thanks to fellow naturalist, Lisa Rizzo, and all the fine IPCO crew! Deb Clark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garydel at aol.com Sat Feb 27 09:13:22 2010 From: garydel at aol.com (garydel at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:13:22 -0500 Subject: [CINC] Condor 2/26 Message-ID: <8CC85E74CEC2C5E-AD88-9B47@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> First and third trips on Friday were canceled, but the noon trip left on time with 18 passengers, mostly from places that are six feet under snow. The count includes 3 pods of commons, 3 bottlenose, 2 grays and one mola-mola. After going all the way up to platform Holly and seeing the bubbles, the grays were less than a mile outside the harbor. Thanks to the report from the Double Dolphin, Matt and Dave opened up the Condor and arrived on the seen minutes later. One of the grays had a pinkish patch in back of its blowhole... maybe an injury??? Varied seas, overcast, cool and overall... a very pleasant day at sea. Carolyn McCleskey, Carol Celic (PID) and I did our best to keep the crowd informed. Gary Delanoeye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mr.zalophus at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 11:25:31 2010 From: mr.zalophus at gmail.com (Mr Zalophus) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:25:31 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Tsunami warning - Santa Barbara Message-ID: As I type this message, the Condor Express and other vessels have been advised by the Harbor Patrol to take their boats offshore to avoid possible damage from the Chile tsunami. Read more at http://www.noozhawk.com/local_news/article/022710_tsunami_advisory/ Gotta go get my camera... Bob Perry Condor Express Photos From cfrench1366 at aol.com Sat Feb 27 12:32:56 2010 From: cfrench1366 at aol.com (Catherine) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:32:56 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Sunday Feb 28th Available - Island Packers - Vta In-Reply-To: <20527517.1267149491334.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20527517.1267149491334.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I can Sincerely, Catherine French Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Lisa Rizzo wrote: > Hi All, > Can anyone take my Whale Watching trips on Sunday Feb 28th on Island > Packers? > 9:30am -1:00pm > 1:00pm - 5:00pm > > Thank you, > Lisa Rizzo > 805-654-0194 > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps From lisarizzo at earthlink.net Sat Feb 27 13:03:53 2010 From: lisarizzo at earthlink.net (Lisa Rizzo) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:03:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CINC] Sunday Feb 28th Available - Island Packers - Vta Message-ID: <24272761.1267304633212.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thank you Catherine. My best, Lisa Rizzo -----Original Message----- >From: Catherine >Sent: Feb 27, 2010 3:32 PM >To: Lisa Rizzo >Cc: CINMS - sanctuary-naturalist-corps >Subject: Re: [CINC] Sunday Feb 28th Available - Island Packers - Vta > >I can > >Sincerely, > >Catherine French >Sent from my iPhone > >On Feb 25, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Lisa Rizzo wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Can anyone take my Whale Watching trips on Sunday Feb 28th on Island >> Packers? >> 9:30am -1:00pm >> 1:00pm - 5:00pm >> >> Thank you, >> Lisa Rizzo >> 805-654-0194 >> _______________________________________________ >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list >> Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org >> http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps From gksully at pacbell.net Sat Feb 27 19:30:31 2010 From: gksully at pacbell.net (Karen Sullivan) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:30:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Sub for tomorrow- CIS Message-ID: <123240.93461.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm coming down with something, and would like to stay home tomorrow. Can someone take my CIS shifts tomorrow, 9-12 and 1-4? I have a feeling the boat won't be going out, due to the conditions, but it would be nice to know it's covered. Karen Sullivan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gksully at pacbell.net Sat Feb 27 23:22:39 2010 From: gksully at pacbell.net (Karen Sullivan) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:22:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] CIS taken for tomorrow Message-ID: <778599.84213.qm@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Carol Celic has graciously agreed to take my CIS shifts tomorrow. Karen Sullivan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gizmo92067 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 28 17:00:27 2010 From: gizmo92067 at yahoo.com (Carol C.) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CINC] Ranger 85 2.28 Message-ID: <621021.7943.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> AM Trip: 200-300 Commons 2 Grays 14 passengers PM Trip: 100 Commons 10 Offshore Bottlenose 14 passengers Crew: Capt. Frank, Capt. Alex, and Ricky What a difference a day makes! It was a nice day to be on the water. The swell at the mouth of Channel Islands Harbor this morning was pretty big, had to wait about 5 minutes to get out of it. Despite the large swells today, the ride was rather nice. The somewhat shy Grays were viewed past Gina, where we were then joined by the Islander. As we got back to the harbor we got word that there were some Humpbacks behind Anacapa. On the afternoon trip we got skunked. We headed out to where the Humpbacks were last seen but they were already gone when we got there. We did see the pod of offshore Bottlenose though to the east of Anacapa. 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One early in the tour and one just as we were returning 4 common dolphins delightful fishing pelicans rafting sea lions Lots of sunshine and 46 passengers from Germany, France, Spain, and Chile, most of whom were escorted on the tour by friends and family who reside in Southern California Great day, great crew Carole Rosales carole at earthlink.net 805 482 0259 (H) 805 405 1681 (C) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bhrian at cox.net Sun Feb 28 20:33:01 2010 From: bhrian at cox.net (Bhrian Resnik) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:33:01 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Condor Express Message-ID: <002e01cab8f8$46dd0310$d4970930$@net> Noon trip: 35 passengers on fairly rough seas with 8-12 ft swells. 3 Grays the first of which was an elusive adolescent the other 2 somewhat more cooperative. 2 very small pods of Commons 1 larger pod of approx 200 Accompanied by Richard Hauge and Lisa Angle 3:00pm trip: 15 passengers on moderate seas; stayed a little more inside. 5 Grays; single and group of 4 with some just fair sightings, whales generally stayed on the surface for very limited times possibly due to sea conditions according to Capt. Mat. Large pod of approx 500 Commons Accompanied by Lisa Angle Harbor entrance very challenging due to heavy duty dredging and large build up of sand. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ppetrich39 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 28 21:12:41 2010 From: ppetrich39 at hotmail.com (Paul Jr. Petrich) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:12:41 -0800 Subject: [CINC] Tsunami warning - Santa Barbara In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think we were lucky in that this thing arrived to our shores during the onset of one of our lowest minus tides (-1.3) intead of on top of our 6 ft high! Paul > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:25:31 -0800 > From: mr.zalophus at gmail.com > To: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > Subject: [CINC] Tsunami warning - Santa Barbara > > As I type this message, the Condor Express and other vessels have been > advised by the Harbor Patrol to take their boats offshore to avoid > possible damage from the Chile tsunami. > > Read more at > http://www.noozhawk.com/local_news/article/022710_tsunami_advisory/ > > Gotta go get my camera... > Bob Perry > Condor Express Photos > _______________________________________________ > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps mailing list > Channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org > http://www.rain.org/mailman/listinfo/channel_islands_naturalist_corps _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: