[CINC] BBC E-mail: Polar bear 'cannibalism' pictured

Sat Dec 24 08:22:27 PST 2011

I believe it was Don Abbott

Lisa Anderson

From: channel_islands_naturalist_corps-bounces at rain.org
[mailto:channel_islands_naturalist_corps-bounces at rain.org] On Behalf Of HAL
ALTMAN
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:37 PM
To: bill weinerth
Cc: rain list
Subject: Re: [CINC] BBC E-mail: Polar bear 'cannibalism' pictured

Don,

Would you mind signing your last name, wo we can keep up with who said what
to whom?

HAL ALTMAN

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:22 PM, bill weinerth <bweinerth at hotmail.com>
wrote:

I think there is a place for questioning.  This is part of the scientific
method.  There is also a place and time to recognize the observations that
we have.  The Union of Concerned Scientists assert, 
"The overwhelming evidence is that global warming is taking place and that
the major cause is human activity - especially the burning of fossil fuels."

The polar bear picture was a bit of distortion, I agree.  Taking a
distortion and trying to make it the truth is a mistake either way it is
taken.
That there are too many people could be a major part of the problem or it
could be too many people are consuming hugh quanities of resources.  I ask;
it is possible for more of us to live more simply?
Bill Weinerth

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:19:04 -0800
From: dvabbott at verizon.net
To: anthonynsocal at yahoo.com
CC: channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org
Subject: Re: [CINC] BBC E-mail: Polar bear 'cannibalism' pictured 

Hi Anthony,

Kudos for speaking the truth.....and I believe there are more Polar Bears
today then there were 30 years ago.  
Ref.:
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1ea8233f-14da-4a44-b839-b71a9
e5df868
The latest government survey of polar bears roaming the vast Arctic expanses
of northern Quebec, Labrador and southern Baffin Island show the population
of polar bears has jumped to 2,100 animals from around 800 in the mid-1980s.

Mankind is screwing up the environment and we need to do a better job;
however, the real problem is there are too many of us.
However, mankind is not the cause of global warming and it saddens me as an
Honest Steward of Our Environment to see the MCGW hoax being continually
spun via RAIN for public consumption.

The glaciers did not start to melt due to mankind 18K years ago and mankind
is not the cause of their continuing to melt today.  

My best,
Don

PS: If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least
once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descartes
(1596 - 1650) 

On 12/8/11 6:20 PM, Anthony Lombardi wrote: 

I think the storyline is very misrepresenting of the story, this is not a
story of climate change, but a hungry, oppurtunistic animal.  My point is
that polar bear and bear populations across the globe as well as many other
species have seen cannibalism.  Look at the grizzllies, males that are
hungry will go after and eat a cub, just as would a polar bear.  You have
baboons eating chimpanzees,  lions eating cubs of other prides etc..... It's
not a climate change issue!   Remember reading the story of the photographer
that took the picture of the polar bear clinging to the piece of ice in the
ice flow on the front cover of a very well know magazine, and the headline
was global warming or climate change and all of a sudden everyones hearts
were melting as fast as the glaciers, blah.  Then later come to find out he
admitted the picture was taken during the summer melt.  Pictures can be
quite deceiving just like the media.

--- On Thu, 12/8/11, Catherine French  <mailto:cfrench1366 at aol.com>
<cfrench1366 at aol.com> wrote:

From: Catherine French  <mailto:cfrench1366 at aol.com> <cfrench1366 at aol.com>
Subject: [CINC] BBC E-mail: Polar bear 'cannibalism' pictured
To: "CINC Rain List"  <mailto:channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org>
<channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 8:29 AM

This is gruesome but understandable. It's all about food in the animal
kingdom. Fits into discussions about climate change.

I saw this story on the BBC News iPad App and thought you should see it.

** Polar bear 'cannibalism' pictured **
A photojournalist snaps an image of cannibalism among polar bears - a
situation that is becoming more common as sea ice dwindles.
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16081214 >

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