[CINC] Wandering Grays - Mediterranean pre-print & WNP DNA ID Flex

Marty Flam klez18 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 12 06:14:05 PST 2011






Dear Fellow Naturalists,
 
Please let me know if you would like a pre-print of the paper on last May's Med Gray.  John Calambokidis quickly responded (below) to my clarification request on WNP vs ENP, both DNA and ID.  More fascinating interpretive grist along with your amazing tsunami reports yesterday.
 
All the best,
Marty
 

Thanks, regarding Flex, he had been identified in April 2008 off Vancouver Island (as well as the many years off Russia). There was a separate genetic match of a different individual between S California and Russia but that was not Flex. The genetic analyses supported that the WGW were a different population but I am told were not inconsistent with there being some EGW mixed in there as well. By the way, you can find information on Flex and the photo-ID match at the IUCN web site (see one of the New News items on cascadiaresearch.org )
 

John 
  

  


From: Marty Flam [mailto:klez18 at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:41 PM
To: John Calambokidis
Cc: Shauna Bingham
Subject: WNP vs ENP Question
  





John,

 

Thanks for the wonderful presentations last night.  

 

Did I hear you say  say Flex or another WNP member  was photographed in 2008 wintering in California, it's a safe bet some of the WNP population are in fact likely regular visitors from ENP with ENP mitochondrial DNA, and some claim there may be no distinct WNP population despite apparently at least one good paper showing DNA differences between populations?  Thanks for clarifying.

 
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