[CINC] Fwd: Painted Cave 2nd longest...

Catherine French cfrench1366 at aol.com
Thu Sep 8 10:40:27 PDT 2011


Our friend Al Trujillo is a professional geologist and a professor as well. He knows about the caves, cave measurement, formation, etc. I forwarded to him the Bob the Caver link that we all received and I am copying here his response to me about Painted Cave on Santa Cruz Island. Please see his response below. 



Calm Seas,
 
Catherine French
Writer, mentor, naturalist
805.570.0432
To own is to have; to share with friends, is to enjoy.


-----Original Message-----
From: Trujillo, Alan <ATrujillo at palomar.edu>
To: Catherine French <cfrench1366 at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:59 am
Subject: RE: [CINC] Painted Cave 2nd longest...


Hi Catherine:

bout the cave question, see this Wikipedia site:
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_cave 
he site mentions how sea caves are formed and it appears accurate. The site 
lso mentions some particulars about Painted Cave. It also has a link to Caver 
ob's list of longest caves of the world, where Painted Cave is ranked #2. I 
hink the list is reliable; laser measurements are highly accurate!
Cheers,
_____________________________________
l Trujillo
istinguished Teaching Professor
epartment of Earth, Space, & Aviation Sciences
alomar College
140 W. Mission Rd.
an Marcos, CA. 92069 USA
hone (760) 744-1150 ext. 2734
ebsite: http://daphne.palomar.edu/atrujillo
lass Blackboard site: http://www.palomar.edu/blackboard/
_______________________________________
rom: Catherine French [cfrench1366 at aol.com]
ent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:23 PM
o: Trujillo, Alan
ubject: Fwd: [CINC] Painted Cave 2nd longest...
Hi Al -- Hope all is well with your family. Lee said he spent time with you and 
our son on the latest SE Alaska adventure and was quite impressed with him. I 
ot to see him on the DVD and was amazed how much he has grown in the past year, 
ikes!
When you have a moment would you check out this site and let me know if the way 
his man describes how caves are formed is accurate and if you know about the 
easuring of the caves he mentioned? I have been trying to get some kind of 
efinitive answer out Painted Cave, we always say it is one of the largest sea 
aves in the world. This site says it is the second largest.
Also, I have trouble trying to explain to visitors to the islands how there so 
uch water available since we don't have winter snow, or extremely high 
ountains with lots of annual rain to feed the ground water and wells. I thought 
aybe you could give a lay person's answer that might suffice. Thanks so much!
Calm Seas,
Catherine French
riter, mentor, naturalist
05.570.0432
o own is to have; to share with friends, is to enjoy.

----Original Message-----
rom: Marty Flam <klez18 at sbcglobal.net>
o: CINC Rainlist <channel_islands_naturalist_corps at rain.org>
ent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:42 pm
ubject: [CINC] Painted Cave 2nd longest...
Fact or fiction?
"The world's second longest sea cave based on an actual survey is Painted Cave 
n California's Santa Cruz Island. It is 1227 feet long and large enough to take 
 ..."
ttp://www.goodearthgraphics.com/virtcave/seacaves/seacaves.html
ttp://www.caverbob.com/seacave.html
"Sea Lion Caves, a show cave operation in Florence, Oregon, rightfully claims it 
o be the "world's largest sea cave." In terms of length, this has been verified 
y a laser survey, which yielded a total distance of 1315 feet of traversible 
assage in the cave. Over half of this distance is in a tunnel not entered on 
he tours, but visible from the viewing platform. "

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