[CINC] DNA analysis shows evidence of three early Siberian migrations to New World

paul jr petrich ppetrich39 at me.com
Mon Jul 16 09:13:06 PDT 2012


Hi Joel, S.O.S:
 On my Mac I get the following notice explaining it is unavailable to me. I wonder if other Mac users face the same block?
(X) The Windows Live Network is unavailable from this site for one of the following reasons:
  1 > This site may be experiencing problems.
  2 > The site may not be a member of the Windows Live Network.
  3 > You may be able to sign in or sign up at other sites on the Windows Live Network, or try again later.  I have tried the latter with no success. Paul    p.s. This particular article was in USAToday last week as well.
On Jul 14, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Joel E. Justin wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>  
> Since there seems to be some interest in this Kindle eBook, I have decided to post it on the CINC SkyDrive. In the IslandTrainingManual folder, I’ve created an eBooks folder:
>  
> https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=A4B2402948FA1EE1!907
>  
> You can find the Historic Resource Study eBook there. I have also uploaded an eBook called Additional Resource Information. It is a compilation of files that are in the Additional Resource Information folder on the Island Hike DVD. Finally, I have uploaded a file that provides instructions on how to get these eBooks onto your Kindle, iPhone, iPad, iTouch, Android phone and Blackberry phone.
>  
> I don’t own Android or Blackberry, but I’ve worked with some friends who have and I believe these instructions should work. However, if you have any updates for me, I’d love to get them. Likewise, if you find any of these instructions confusing, please let me know so I can make them better.
>  
> I plan to, over time, update the Island Hike narrative eBooks I’ve created. As I do, I will upload them and send out an email announcing their availability.
>  
> Joel...
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>  
>  
> From: David_Begun at nps.gov
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:22 PM
> To: David_Begun at nps.gov
> Subject: Fw: [CINC] DNA analysis shows evidence of three early Siberian migrations to New World
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> 
> See below from Ann Huston regarding recent press on early migration to
> North America. Rain List chain included for context.
> 
> David Begun
> Channel Islands National Park
> david_begun at nps.gov
> 805-658-5731
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> ----- Forwarded by Derek Lohuis/CHIS/NPS on 07/12/2012 04:00 PM -----
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> Hi,
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> Russell gets Nature magazine, so we can read the whole article and see what
> it says.
> 
> There are several scientific avenues that are exploring who the first
> Americans were, and when, where and how they arrived in the New World.  One
> of those avenues is archeology, and the 12,000-year- old + sites that have
> been found along the west coast, including the islands, provide evidence
> for a coastal migration route via the kelp highway.
> 
> DNA provides another line of scientific evidence.  The DNA folks are trying
> to extract ancient DNA from the oldest human remains in the Americas and to
> trace those DNA lineages back to Asia and forward to the New World, by
> looking for matches in existing populations in both places.  John Johnson's
> studies have indicated that the same DNA that was found in 10,500-year-old
> remains in Alaska has also been found in California, Mexico, Peru and other
> coastal locations, including a Chumash individual.  This provides good
> evidence for a coastal migration route at a very early time.
> 
> The article that is referenced below may or may not not make any reference
> to migration routes, but I doubt that it precludes a coastal migration
> route, and it may even reinforce the evidence for it.
> 
> Ann
> 
> ____________________________
> Ann Huston
> Chief, Cultural Resources
> Channel Islands National Park
> 1901 Spinnaker Drive
> Ventura, CA  93001
> (805) 658-5752
> Fax:  (805) 658-5799
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> kelly, can you shed some light on this. thanks.
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> Derek Lohuis
> Channel Islands National Park
> 1901 Spinnaker Dr.
> Ventura, CA 93001
> 805-658-5736
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> ----- Forwarded by Derek Lohuis/CHIS/NPS on 07/12/2012 09:00 AM -----
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> Don,
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> Like you, I was looking through the descriptions of the article for any
> mention of coastal migration.
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> One thought is that these researchers are only interested in publishing and
> defending their DNA work, which shows three separate waves of migration.
> Their research provides no indication of when or how these early people
> arrive. The authors just provide these vague references to establish the
> context of what was going on.
> 
> Of course, without shelling out some bucks and reading the actual article I
> may be missing something, but I would guess the authors aren't interested
> in how the migrations occurred.
> 
> I did get the idea further DNA research might help establish a migration
> timeline. One roadblock is that many Native Americans have prevented the
> examination of remains from early humans in the US. Most of the evidence in
> this study came from Canada and Latin America. In looking at comments on
> some web sites I'm amazed how contentious this entire early migration field
> is in all kinds of ways for many scientists and non-scientists.
> 
> Maybe Dave or Derek can find someone who will shed a little more light on
> how this research might affect the idea of coastal migration.
> 
> Best regards,
> David Chubb
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> On 7/11/2012 9:58 PM, Don wrote:
>       Thanks David,
> 
>       I thought "coastal migration" from Asia was the current thinking of
>       most experts in this field.  However, per this article the ole "land
>       bridge" was the migration route into North America -- no mention of
>       "coastal migration" via the "kelp highway" as coined by Dr. Jon
>       Erlandson.
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>       Since this article has been sent to all CINC volunteers (many of whom
>       are Island Interps) it raises the following question:
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>       Q: Should Island Interps refrain from mentioning "coastal migration"
>       let alone the "kelp highway" associated with the discovery of
>       Arlington Man on an isolated island?
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>       Perhaps CINP's can tell us what is appropriate.
> 
>       My best,
>       Don
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>       On 7/11/12 2:59 PM, David Chubb wrote:
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>             An international team of 64 researchers led by David Reich has
>             published an article, Reconstructing Native American Population
>             History, in the journal "Nature" (subscription required for
>             access) which uses DNA analysis to determine that human
>             migration from Siberia occurred in three waves. The authors
>             roughly speculate on when these waves occurred, but additional
>             future comparison with DNA of ancient early Asian populations
>             may helps solve this riddle.
> 
>             Excerpt from the Wall Street Journal:
>             (
>             http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303644004577520853902929564.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
>             )
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>             "Reconstructing this ancient genealogy, they found that Native
>             Americans today descend from three distinct streams of genes
>             from Asia — each the hereditary signature of a different ethnic
>             group of intrepid settlers who began to arrive about 15,000
>             years ago or more. Even so, most Native Americans from Canada
>             to the tip of South America owe their ancestry to the first of
>             those three ancient migrations—a group of restless Ice Age
>             nomads the researchers call "First American."
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>             Also reported in Science Daily at
>             http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120711134710.htm
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